So I measured my Lunch

(Nicolas) #1

So, I was interested on how my Blood Glucose change before and after 30 min, 1 hour of my lunch, wanted to know how much BG would raise.

This is the result:
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#2

Wow, you have two tablespoons of ACV?
I’m impressed! I can only handle one.

PS: And now I’m hungry, after reading this. :wink:

(Nicolas) #3

Could the Organic ACV with mother be responsible of lowering the Blood Glucose? I saw a video about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY7lQZgoauA

Im not diabetic mind you, but I know if I control Insulin I can control the 2 Compartment problem.

#4

That was the very video I was thinking about, when I saw you had some ACV. But it’s been awhile since I’ve seen it, and forgot some of the points he makes. I think I need to build up my resistence to take another tablespoon.

What I’m curious about is how the Diet Pepsi might have effected your glucose. What’s the sweetener in that? I can see the ACV helping stablize that, but how much more could it, if you didn’t have the Pepsi?

(Hagen) #5

Wow, Nicolas. I don’t know if the ACV would make any difference in your case - you seem to be in very good shape there to begin with.

Nothing you ate should make your blood sugar go up very much, but that is still amazing blood sugar control.

(Nicolas) #6

Im gonna do an experiment with a Zero Coke can when I buy more strips for my Optium Neo. and we will see (At least in my body) if a can of coke zero up the Blood Glucose. There are experiments like this already, here:


(Edith) #7

It might not up your glucose, but it could possibly cause an insulin response which could make your blood sugar go down.

(Bob M) #8

Those are all basically the same. Try the same exact meal a few times to get a better picture.

I see you have “order of eating”. It probably won’t make much difference for that meal…

And keep measuring at 1/2 hour and 1 hour, or maybe even 15 minutes or 1.5 hours. This is from Thanksgiving, 2017:

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Between each set of lines is one hour. The 9.7 (9.7*18= 175 in US units) is caused by my first meal (Thanksgiving, real bread, real potatoes, etc.). Then there was a delay, then dessert (real cheesecake, I believe).

Note the entire “peak” is only about one hour long for me.

My blood sugars are generally 100 in the morning, going up until about 10am or so, then down all day.

(Nicolas) #9

No, it did both things.

Everything you eat causes an insulin response (Unless you have a problem with your pancreas maybe) so before eating was at 70, then the food raised it to 77 which is good because the food did not spike BG (Which makes sense coz… Keto diet), then the insulin came in between min 31 and min 60 something and lowered it for 2 points, that is the insulin response you are referring to.

Now, not bad, my insulin I mean, I dont think the body will store fat if it raised the BG to 7 points, even if the insulin was there to drop it to 2 points.

Is it any math or science that says “Ok, even if your BG is low and you have an insulin response, that insulin response will open the 2 compartment and store fat” or “At these levels of BG then the insuline that you will secrete will be so high, that will open your 2 compartment and store fat”.

(Bob M) #10

It’s actually a lot more complex than that. Here’s a test I did to see if I could cause my blood sugar to change because of high (162 grams) of protein in one meal. The 5.7 was before I started eating, the 6.4 after I ended eating. Multiply by 18 to get US units.

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Did that amount of protein cause my insulin to increase? Abso-freaking-lutely. Why didn’t my blood sugar change? Glucagon.

See this:

For your test, I think those values are basically the same. I think you’d have to eat exactly the same thing multiple times (same time of day, same conditions), and then see what happens.

Why do I think this? In addition to having over a year of CGM data, I have several thousand additional blood sugar and ketone tests.

Testing is very tricky, particularly when your instruments are only valid to plus or minus 15% of the actual value.

(Nicolas) #11

Nice, I will check the video.

I was thinking on these terms:

By his illustration, it seems you start to store fat when your glycogen stores are full (Between muscles and liver, you can store 2200 Cals of Glycogen) so if you are full glycogen, whatever amount of insulin will store the excess as fat.

Which is impossible in a keto diet because if you eat say, 20gr of Carbs per day, thats 20x4 = 80 Cals of Glycogen, and that glycogen 1 day is gonna get used, Im under the impression that by NEAT, or moving from A to B, thinking, bodily processes will use those 80gr, so you are really using fat (that is why we have ketones in our bodies, when the body needs fuel and you dont give the body glucose, then the process of lypolisis will be ketone bodies in our bloodstream).

Now another good question would be, even if you have 0Gr of Glycogen in your body, and you are using fat as energy, does an increase of X amount of BG or raise in glucagon makes fat?, or go to the liver and thus as glycogen?, etc.

EDIT: I watched the video you recommended it, I forgot. Im gonna watch it again.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #12

It doesn’t really matter. The serum glucose is more affected by carbohydrate intake, which was very low at this meal. It would be interesting to have more data points to assess, so as to get an idea of what your insulin was doing (since there’s no way to test it at home, we would have to infer it from the pattern of your glucose readings). Given the error range of home glucose meters, the readings you posted are all essentially the same.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #13

I believe it’s aspartame, as in most other diet sodas.