Hello, I have an issue when going full carnivore, does anybody have similar experience or knows the underlying cause? After roughly two weeks of carnivore/zero carb(beef+chicken wings occasionally), I start getting underskin bumps on my face, in the hair and on my neck. It’s not standard acne, the skin is just slighly reddish with some matter below the skin creating a bump, Those bumps then stay there for a very long time until I stop strictly following the carnivore diet. Even a bit of fruit or some rice/potatoes consumed on one day make the problem disappear within the next 2-3 days. Without this however the same bumps can last even for weeks. I have reproduced this more than once so it is not just a random thing.
Welcome. The standard answer is to give it more time. But since you have tested the results with carnivore and then adding carbs back in already…. I can only assume you would do better on a regular keto diet.
Carnivore isn’t for everyone. If you have a very specific reason for going full carnivore… you may want to ease into it gradually.
You’ve provided no other information, like why. Weight loss? Diabetic? Arthritis? Age? current weight, etc etc etc.
Without more info, we can’t really provide any possible insights.
Not sure, but it sounds like what people refer to as oxalate dumping. The idea is that when you stop eating vegetables high in oxalates, your body begins getting rid of them, sometimes through the surface of the skin. I’ve read where people recommend adding back in a few vegetables and making a slower transition to carnivore. This isn’t an area where I feel very confident, so you might look it up on World Carnivore Tribe Facebook or such.
I try to answer your questions below. What other information do you need exactly? Also, thanks to the other poster for some insight.
Weight loss? Not the main reason though it obviously helps with that. I was diagnosed with metabolic syndrome a few years back - being very slim on most of the body but having excessive belly fat. I was able to handle that with keto exactly as you suggested. I’m trying the carnivore diet because it seems to stop 100% of my migraines and >90% of seborheic dermatitis which keto alone does not do.
Diabetic? As above, at one point I was probably pre-diabetic. On carnivore diet my blood tests are perfect.
Current weight? 67kg with 185cm which afaik is the very bottom of healthy BMI range. I cannot gain weight very easily now, that is the complete opposite of what was going on in the past. The metabolic syndrome thing happened at ~82kg with standard “western”-type diet…
Unfortunately, I can’t be of any help, since my experience with skin problems has been the exact opposite of yours. My skin is much better, the less carbohydrate I eat.
Thanks for that info. There are folks on here for the same reasons as you… hopefully they will soon chime in.
Definitely look into oxalate dumping. It usually starts around the 2 week mark after removing all oxalate containing foods from your diet. It can be very uncomfortable, but a good thing in the long run.
That fact that eating some fruit helps it go away pretty much confirms it is oxalate dumping. Oxalates are found in fruits and veggies in differing amounts. For example, spinach is very high in oxalate. By eating some oxalate containing foods, your body stops the dumping process.
My thinking too.
Ok, thanks to all for the feedback. From what I read about it this explanation looks very reasonable. I will try to get through the process somehow and will report back with the result. It will take some time though…
I can’t offer much advice, as I’m just an individual with my own experiences but the bumps on your face sound a bit like roseaca? But then it could also just be an allergic reaction, a histamine response such as you get when you break out in hives. But I can relate to the frustration of skin problems, as I do have roseaca. I expected all this to get better on a ketogenic diet as I significantly lowered my carbs, my intake of fruit and vegetables and focused more on meats. But my skin did not improve, my roseaca has instead flared up. My type the bumpy kind where you get pimples and redness. It may in your case be a matter of your body dumping oxalates as some here have already mentioned. Or, because your body is going through such a substantial change, a healing crisis. When these sort of things happen where the body throws up a response, my response is never to toughen it out, but to rather ease back and see if a more gradual approach is better. But that is me and we’re all different and in the end it’s what feels right for you that matters.
It could be caused by an array of different factors. I wouldn’t immediately give up on carnivore, if I were you. Maybe play around with your macros, type of meat, meat quality, intermittent fasting, how many meals, etc.