Shoulder tendonitis and keto or carnivore diet

#69

You say when your shoulder acts up, has it been diagnosed? Did you have an MRI? What are your symptoms? Thanks

#70

Two bad AC joints and had one partial rotator tear. I’ve had quite a few naps in the MRI! Also lost track of all the spinal injections.

#71

The sad thing is that I made an awesome ice cream right in the beginning of my carnivore times (it wasn’t 100% carnivore but close enough)… And I never wanted ice cream on carnivore (or out of it) ever again.

Normal ice cream from the shops? Never ever would want that inferior watery thing (with very much unnecessary sugar that makes it even worse).

I eat fruits though so I never will be carnivore. I just do my best to stay close. Especially when it’s not fruit season (half of the year is fruit season but I can have carni days even then sometimes. like August is raging pear season in my garden, it doesn’t mean I will touch it this week. with my mouth I mean as I handle it many times a day… maybe that’s why I end up talking about fruits everywhere including carni threads… no, I just LOVE fruits. not necessarily eating them, they can offer so much more!).

#72

Then its for your rotator cuff tear. My partial tear right shoulder is fine. Its the left shoulder calcific tendonitis thats my issue. How did you come across this injectable peptide collagen? Is it called Bellafill? Do you think collagen tablets are worth a try?

#73

I have fruit and vegetables in my garden as well.I love pears and apples But I have to give this carnivore diet a chance to see if I get improvement… at least a month maybe more.

(Little Miss Scare-All) #74

Brick, NJ… I’m 120 on the gsp. We’re neighbors.

#75

Im on the shore exit 91 Brick… land of a thousand traffic lights and too many people…lol

(Little Miss Scare-All) #76

Pffffft yessssss. Our summer home is in Point Pleasant Beach bordering Bay Head… the land of doing all your errands around the Benny traffic. :joy:

#77

I try not to go out after 7am or after 8pm traffic’s so bad here

Right now Im keto but if that doesnt help I’ll go all carnivore

#78

OK folks, I’m a away to fk to bed!

I love you all, and I mean that.

See you all later xo

#79

Its not collagen, its BPC-157 and TB-500. I don’t think collagen is worth it at all, I eat high protein so I’m getting more of those aminos than most people would who supplement with it.

#80

BPC-157 and TB-500
So these injectibles work for you. I tried all those glucosamine chondroitin supplements for many weeks did nothing but made me a little dizzy. My joints were the same

(Megan) #81

Hi Trucha, I hope whatever way of eating you choose to stick to gives you some good results. Pain and limited mobility can be a real pain to deal with (pun intended). I live with a lot of chronic pain and I believe chronic inflammation is the culprit. It is with many disease processes and pain in our bodies. My 1st reason for starting keto, and then moving very quickly to carnivore, is to lose weight. A very close 2nd is to reduce inflammation and support my body to do a ton of healing - reversing insulin resistance, rebalancing hormones, tissue repair etc etc. This is a toxic world we live in, a lot of stress, chemicals everywhere, and a lot of very unhealthy damaging food.

Decide what way you are going to go - very low carb keto, with carbs coming primarily from green leafy veg and cruciferous veg, or carnivore. It sounds like you are leaning towards carnivore. Next step is to give it time. More time than you probably think. Your body needs to go through a big adjustment and detoxification, it’s not going to be done in a month. Give it at least 3 months, in my opinion, and keep track of how you are feeling - energy levels, pain, sleep, mental clarity or lack thereof etc. As the months go on I’m hoping you start to see some real improvements in these things.

If you are going to eat carnivore, I think you need to be all in. This means no plant products, only animal ones. Take as many weeks as you need to remove the plant products, then go all in and give it 3 months. A carnivore way of eating is not eating only animal products most days, with a bit of plant based food some days. In order to experience the health benefits I have heard and read you need to eliminate plant products completely. Having said this, some people following a carnivore way of eating tolerate black pepper and some spices fine.

If you change your mind at any point and wish to eat a ketogenic diet instead, get very good at reading packaging - especially the carbohydrate content. Forms of sugar and starches are put in so many different foods! The same goes for the processed meats you were asking about. Many many people experience huge benefits from eating a ketogenic diet. Both choices are excellent experiments.

I think one of the most important things about eating ketogenically, apart from keeping carbohydrates very low (I kept mine under 20 net grams a day) is to limit the amount of processed food by as much as you can. If an ingredient list isn’t short, or if it has a bunch of numbers in it, or words you don’t recognize, I encourage you not to eat it. Same goes for highly processed seed oils - canola, sunflower, vegetable oil, safflower oil etc. Choose a good quality cold pressed olive oil instead, or avocado or coconut oil. Man made polyunsaturated oils (largely our seed oils) are best to be avoided as they are strongly linked with being pro-inflammatory.

All the best and keep us posted!

#82

Hi Megan
Thank you for your most encouraging thoughts. I’m starting off ketogenic, eating my own home grown salads and steamed vegetables, very low carbs. All the lamb, pork, beef and eggs I can consume. It’s just hard to wrap my head around the idea of all carnivore just yet. However if I do begin to see results with keto and reach a plateau, I may switch over to all carnivore but I’m really not sure. After all this is only day three and I’m craving a McDonald’s mocha frappe…lol but resisting the temptation. I’m having a hard time thinking things like salami and hot dogs are really good for you…

Take care

(Megan) #83

Hey @trucha, those dang cravings huh? Keep resisting, for many people they pass, or become extremely infrequent. I don’t eat salami or hotdogs, I like my meat to look like meat :innocent:
I live in New Zealand so no clue what your hotdogs are made of, over here it’s a bunch of junk and some meat. Also highly processed so double no thanks. I do have some free range pork and chicken sausages being delivered today tho. Found a butcher who makes them to order and he has an extensive keto range. Something like 0.1 gram carb per sausage. I’m in!

#84

Megan
I get my lamb chops from New Zealand & Australia and they taste pretty good. The hot dogs and salami here in the States Im sure they’re made from the worst crap ever, maybe even dog.

Did you see the podcast of Mickhaila Peterson interviewing 4 people on the carnivore diet? One woman says she eats raw chopmeat cut into cubes and freezes it. She also freezes and eats small cubes of beef fat. I wonder if she drinks human blood too…lol

I’m having a McDonald’s iced french vanilla coffee to satisfy my cravings tonight but this is only day three and I’m full of energy.

Can you be sure when you buy from a “free range” butcher that he’s not feeding his livestock something short of what you want? I wonder whose there to check on him or her.My friend wants to buy her “free range” meats from someone on Craigslist. I say no way I’ll stick with ShopRite and Aldi.

(Megan) #85

People here are fairly trustworthy, tho I know a farmer doesn’t need to do much to call their meat free range. It’s a small specialist sausage maker business, just him with his wife handling the business side. I’m just glad to find some Gluten Free, Preservative Free, Dairy Free, Filler Free , Nitrate Free, Colour Free basically zero carb sausages made only with meat, water, salt and a few spices, depending on the sausage flavour. Casings are made from collagen.

#86

A butcher on Craigslist in NJ… Im not sure of…good luck with yours hopefully he’s a good one goodnight

(Bob M) #87

Why are we getting so many people going from high carb to carnivore? That seems like a lot.

If you exercise at all, expect 4-6+ weeks of a transition just for keto. It takes a while for your body to adjust and produce whatever it needs for exercise. And if you’re exercising a lot, it could take even longer.

It took my body years before it transitioned from “high” blood ketones to basically very low blood ketones.

I’d say try keto for at least a month, then try carnivore.

Also, if your sole criterion for switching from keto to carnivore is weight loss, you will switch to carnivore. Why? Because weight loss is not linear. At all. I’ve lost inches (had to move my belt smaller) while the scale did not move. And if you throw in any fasting, be prepared not to know what your scale weight even is. When I was using the scale (now, I only use clothes and belts), if I fasted >24 hours, I lost 5 pounds in a day. That was not real weight loss, but it made trying to figure out what the real weight loss was very difficult.

#88

I myself am starting with keto but I may or may not move to carnivore. But I’m questioning what’s “allowed” on carnivore. It all started for me with a podcast I heard last week from Mikhailia Peterson. I was so intrigued by her story of how she overcame her ailments by eliminating carbs that I felt I needed to try for my own ailments.