Severe gut issues

(Alec) #21

This post was more for the OP, but if you can use it too, then all good! :joy::+1:

(Denise) #22

I get mixed up on posts, sorry bout that, but I can really use your suggestions myself :wink: denise

(Denise) #23

I just went back to looking at Shawn Baker’s stuff :wink: Learned about him from someone here that even got to meet him. That was early on in my keto, denise

(Alec) #24

Denise
Revero is Shawn’s medical group: essentially a team of doctors who understand metabolic health. Shawn has built the company to help people navigate difficult chronic diseases.

#25

Is she always the passenger? And does she ever have any vertigo problems?

Wife as Passenger in my truck = sick within 10min
Wife as Driver in my truck = fine
Passenger in her own car = fine

My wife developed what seems to be random vertigo and that seems to have started it.

(John Bradshaw) #26

@Alecmcq Thx for the Revero suggestion. I’ll check it out… Just had a look. They only accept people from the USA at the moment. We are in Australia.

(Alec) #27

Ok, if you’re in Australia you could try Dr Paul Mason. He is in Sydney. Not sure if he takes patients.

(John Bradshaw) #28

@Alecmcq Thx for that. Yes, we are familiar with Dr Mason. He is very good but has a very long waiting list (no doubt because he is so good!)

(Alec) #29

John, whereabouts are you in Aus? I am based in Bega, far south coast of NSW. Currently up in Sydney for a holiday. Yeah, I know that people usually try to escape Sydney to go on holiday, but I am from the country! Last thing I want is more country!

(John Bradshaw) #31

An update… Maybe this will help someone.

We saw a couple of videos that got my wife thinking. The first was by Rebecca Heishman. She detailed her experience of many of the severe gut problems my wife was having. It was quite remarkable how close the resemblance was. Beef wasn’t fixing the problem. https://youtu.be/q4s3vRTShoM?si=ru30clxIYxfs0U0Z

What she did was, in a nutshell, eat lamb for a year.

Then we came across Tammy Petersen. She too had severe gut problems. And again, it was lamb that caused her healing.

Well, what did we have to lose?

So off to the local butcher. He said, in Australia, beef is hung for two weeks before they put it out for sale. This, apparently, improves the flavour. Whereas lamb is two days from the abbatoir to the shelf. Also, lamb, is by definition a young animal, less than a year old. Maybe that makes it more tender etc.

Anyway the results have been very, very satisfying. My wife, after 3 weeks, no longer has the incredible gas pains in her digestive tract that would cause her to double over in agony. Going to the toilet is returning to normal. She is gaining weight, which she badly needed to do. She was just skin and bone having lost way too much on the lion diet of beef, salt, butter and water over 18 months. She was not under-eating the amount of beef, or butter. She just wasn’t able to digest it properly, which the insane amounts of burping and gas she had, evidenced. She only ate Scotch Fillet.

Also, we cook lamb loin chops on the BBQ for her. She has about 20 per day, cooked 4 at a time. She devours all the fat too… Much nicer than beef fat. She also has a small amount of lamb’s liver each day.

Early days, for sure. But she has not been this well for years! The fact that she is putting on weight (3kgs in 3 weeks) and has lost ALL the gas problems, is a great indication her gut is healing. We are so glad we didn’t listen to the Drs that wanted to remove her gall bladder, her colon etc. They would have killed her for sure.

So, once again, it all comes down to what you put in your mouth. Shall update in a few months… Watch this space :slightly_smiling_face:

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #32

That’s a great result John. Who know’s maybe one day beef will be OK again. Personally I prefer lamb to anything else, beef is nice for a change but lamb is perfect IMO

(Bob M) #33

That’s very interesting. I wonder what the differences are in the meat?

(Bean) #34

Histamine?

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #35

I’ve heard of folk with Histamine intolerance. It’s the only explanation I guess.

(Bob M) #36

It seems to be a reasonable explanation.

I wonder if the US has similar processing differences between beef and lamb?

I think it would be tough to eat nothing but lamb in the US. Beef is already expensive, and lamb is too.

But I wonder if it would work with pork? Since I doubt that this meat is hung for very long. But then you have to be concerned with what the pig ate.

(John Bradshaw) #38

We have been to countless Drs. They have wildly different ideas about what to do. The conclusion is they don’t know what to do. Some want this test, some want this pill, others want to remove the gall bladder others the colon, and so it goes on and on. Truly, all we got from the Drs was an empty wallet.

YouTube was a much greater help showing the candid experiences of real people.

(Ethan) #39

Congratulations! To tone down inflammation and histamine you can always try the supplement Quercetin. I take it off and on for a few months during the year in the early summer when things seem to bother my skin. It works pretty well for a lot of inflammatory conditions.

(John Bradshaw) #40

@ebt Thankyou Ethan. That’s a great tip!

(Bob M) #41

Any recommendations on what to buy and dosage?

Normally, I’m not a huge fan of these things, but I’ve been (re)testing Liposomal Glutathione, and this seems to help with the allergies I have. I can feel some drainage in my sinuses.

I have no idea whether this is a histamine problem from meat, but I do eat a lot of beef. A lot.

(B Creighton) #42

It sounds like a motility thing to me. Her gut is not moving the food through consistently, so the pressure builds up causing the gas pain. The car pain thing could be food moving through the upper gut, and not moving in specific areas like the cecum causing pressure to build up. If getting out of the car and walking around for a minute or two relieves the pain, it is probably coming from a motility issue. Being on drugs for a long time might reconstruct the gut microbiome - certainly antibiotics will. My wife took antibiotics for a long time because she got a cough which only went away with them. That certainly was not my idea, but long story short it seemed to give her lots of gut issues she is having to deal with now.
I think she should consider getting her stool cultured. My guess is she will have some bad guys in there. One of the things I did, and my wife did was to take a probiotic with bacteriophages in it. The most practical one I found is here:
https://www.lifeextension.com/search#q=bacteriophages&t=coveo4A2453FD
and it is on sale now. I found it gave me an unusual amount of gas for about 2 days, but my wife was more and longer, which I interpreted as the biofilms of bad guys breaking down and causing some gas… It is difficult to rebuild a microbiome as most probiotics are really very limited in scope, and a healthy microbiome should have hundreds of species. Bacteriophages are specific to a few bad guys.
Also don’t be scared of a little soluble fiber… It is not going to cause weight gain, and can assist in gut motility because a healthy gut converts soluble fiber into short chain fatty acids the colonocytes use to power themselves - including motlity. In other words they move things along better, and prevent gas buildup.
Soluble fiber is especially high in fruits. I use organic berries every morning in my goat yogurt. Cruciferous vegees like broccoli are also a good source.
My wife also developed histamine intolerance, and for awhile avoided certain foods high in histamines like avocados and sauerkraut. EBT is right that quercitin is a good histamine blocker, but it has several health benefits, and would certainly be worth trying. My wife did the GAP diet for a bit, and over the long haul I think the occassional bone broth has helped her - but it took awhile. Another good way to help rebuild the mucus layer in the gut is to eat lecithin. Lecithin is high in phosphatidylcholine, which can help rebuild the gut lining. The choline is also very good for brain health.