Science or Comment on this

(Jason Moyer) #1

HI,

I was wondering if anyone has any science on this comment below. Fat and cancer, sugar not causing diabetes and fat buildup causing diabetes. Thanks.

" I have cancer (had it twice) and my doctors have kept me away from high fat diets because they tend to promote cancer growth — especially for blood cancers. And yes, I am not saying go out and eat a ton of sugar, but that’s not responsible for causing diabetes. It’s a buildup of fat in the blood stream which does not allow glucose to enter the cells. So the rationale is that getting rid of that fatty buildup helps, and the evidence is there. That book has a ton of really good studies in it, and Neal Barnard has done some great work on the topic."

(*Rusty* Instagram: @Rustyk61) #2

Not sure what book your talking about. Are you trying to tell us that eating fat will give us cancer?

(Jason Moyer) #3

This is the book,Dr. Neal Barnard’s Program for Reversing Diabetes: The Scientifically Proven System for Reversing Diabetes Without Drugs

I am not suggesting or saying anything. I have quoted a post from someone else stating fat causes diabetes. The person is stating fat causes diabetes when I thought or read it was insulin. Also, the person states that fat promotes cancer and I don’t believe that is true. So i was looking for the smart people on here to assist me.

(Karl) #4

Isn’t he one of those, whaddayacallem… vegans?

(Doug) #5

Hi Jason. I have never heard that. They may be referring to a buildup of fat in fat cells - the cells get to a point where they cannot as easily take in more fat, and that constitutes one type of insulin resistance, and insulin resistance is definitely involved with Type 2 Diabetes.

There are many past studies that end up “blaming” a high fat diet for certain conditions, and upon further examination the diet included a lot of carbohydrates as well. I cannot be sure that is entirely the case with what the speaker (my doctors have kept me away from high fat diets because they tend to promote cancer growth) is talking about, but it is a thing I’ve seen over and over.

(Bunny) #6

Fatty build up (whatever that means?) comes from not enough fat (fatty acids) in the diet to absorb vital nutrients and glucose further blocking the absorption process of vital nutrients when too much sugar or glucose is present which in turn is what is causing the fatty build up in the first place to begin with? e.g. radial arterial calcification of the vascular system and internal organs.

Depends on what your burning as fuel (ketones from fatty acids or glucose\sugar)?

If you add fat-to-sugar or sugar-to-fat in the diet then you will feed or allow glucose (its vital nutrient) to enter the cancer cell receptors and then you have the insulin receptors on the surface of cancer cells absorbing your own insulin (it’s other endocrine/hormonal nutrient), keeping the cancer cell surface membrane nice and healthy?

I would be more worried about feeding cancer glucose and insulin than I would be worried about how much glucose or insulin my internal organ receptor cells are getting/absorbing if I had cancer?

Then again some types of cancer cells can live on Ketones depending on the type of cancer and that’s what I would be investigating?

(Jason Moyer) #7

Good info, tks

(Jason Moyer) #8

Appreciate the insight. :slight_smile:

(Jason Moyer) #9

I think. Not sure.