Say it isn't so. I gave up coffee, now I hear I should give up tea

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(Amber) #21

Since I started this way of eating I’m finding everytime I give something up they come out with something else that I need to give up.
Let’s all eat air, wait no that’s not even safe lol.

(Crow T. Robot) #22

Not by me. Please enjoy your tea.

(Arlene) #23

These days, I take all advise with a grain of salt. If one source says one thing, there’s almost always another source that claims the opposite to be true. I drink an entire pot of coffee too, and I load it up with HWC, because that’s the only way I like it. I don’t care what anyone says about it. I have lost 35 lbs. this year. I will not give up my coffee AND cream until my body tells me it doesn’t feel right anymore. Your body is the ultimate judge of what is right for you.

(Jane Reed) #24

Farm girl Arlene has it right. If you are stalled or have some other obstacle in your way, the only way to know if it’s the tea is to cut back or cut out. If you are doing OK, why stop? ARE you doing OK?

#25

:heart:

(Crystal ) #26

It really does come down to the individual.
Everyone has a different response to different foods/drinks/sweeteners. What works for me may not work for you - and vice versa.
I did several experiments with my tea: using my regular sweetener (which I was suspecting was kicking me out of ketosis) and almond milk, then the next day no almond milk, next day no sweetener, next day black, next day a NEW sweetener etc etc…
I don’t have a blood glucose metre which would be best obviously, but I use a cheap breathalyzer I have found gives me pretty consistent results.
Turns out: my sweetener was giving me the boot but black tea AND tea with almond milk had zero affect! So I enjoy my tea guilt-free with my new sweetener (which I tested and also had no affect on readings)
You kind of just have to figure it out. Check in with how you feel, your weightloss (if that’s your goal) for the week, or use a metre of some sort to test.
Experimentation is really necessary in finding out what causes YOUR body to have an insulin response.
KCKO :v:

#27

I don’t usually have quite that much anymore, but I used to easily hit that. Black tea is supposed to be good for arterial elasticity. I recently got a scale that measures pulse wave velocity (a way to measure arterial elasticity), and if it’s accurate, I have wonderfully elastic arteries. I credit my tea consumption.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #28

Got my milk frother on Thursday, have been enjoying lots of great coffee since then.

Thanks for much for mentioning these devices.

#29

I heard Doc Nally (Muscles) say that too, and he said both green AND black tea… the Doc says he’s had a number of patients whose weight loss stalled until they dropped the tea.

I consider the Doc a pretty reliable source.

BUMMED. ME. OUT.

(Doug) #30

:neutral_face: Good grief… Not that that cannot be true, but some of this stuff just seems like ‘magic.’ My gut feeling is that there is no way tea would stall weight loss. However, I have nothing more than that, and we are all individuals…

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #31

Fung thinks green tea suppresses the appetite. I think it is a great alternative to eating things while fasting.
If I have learned one thing from the internet it is : Whatever you think is true, another source will think the complete opposite is true.

So I carry on with my searching for my personal truth. And for me, I can drink tea without it stalling my weight loss efforts.
Besides, black, green, and herbal teas all have health benefits of some kind.

(James storie) #32

I just made a full blown latte with mine! Started with 1/2 cup of heavy cream and warmed in the microwave. The volume after using the aerolatte was 1.5 cups! I put it in a Starbucks cup so I could feel special!

#33

I hear ya, my guts tell me the same thing!

The Doc’s theory is that green and black teas raise insulin in some people… why tea would do this and not coffee I have no idea.

(Doug) #34

Not sure how to interpret this: “Tea, as normally consumed, was shown to increase insulin activity >15-fold in vitro in an epididymal fat cell assay.” Adding milk really knocked down the effect, there. I wonder what heavy cream would do.

#35

Thanks! I’m sipping my black tea as I read this, but I’m out of cream lol

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #36

I think I will continue to drink teas, green and herbal ones for sure. This was a mouse study but the amounts used were equal to 1-1.5 cups of tea. Again, cutting back on foods I might be eating instead of drinking a cuppa, has worked for me.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mnfr.201200206/abstract

(Solomom A) #37

Glucose and insulin were monitored in this human study:

The Effect of Consuming Instant Black Tea on
Postprandial Plasma Glucose and Insulin
Concentrations in Healthy Humans

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Ellis3/publication/5931156_The_Effect_of_Consuming_Instant_Black_Tea_on_Postprandial_Plasma_Glucose_and_Insulin_Concentrations_in_Healthy_Humans/links/5538ba940cf2239f4e79b3ae.pdf

Conclusions: The 1.0g tea drink reduced the late phase plasma glucose response in healthy humans with a corresponding increase in insulin. This may indicate that the attenuation in postprandial glycemia was achieved as a result of an elevated insulin response following stimulation of pancreatic -cells. This effect may be attributable to the presence of phenolic compounds in the tea

Sorry, Working on my phone, too clumsy

(Michael Wallace Ellwood) #38

And yet milk contains sugar. Curious.

(Michael Wallace Ellwood) #39

Black tea is also supposed to be high in fluoride. This is somewhat of a worry for me, although it hasn’t made me give up tea so far.

Edited to add some evidence:

hmm…I see that green tea is also high in fluoride, according to that source.

(Doug) #40

Indeed, Mike - lactose, which the body breaks down into simpler sugars and Whammo - you’d think insulin would then go up. Some supposed effect from the whey protein as well. Gah! This stuff is alchemy! :face_with_raised_eyebrow: