Satiety question

(Rachel) #1

Today I was a bit peckish for a late lunch. I had made a lovely frittata for brunch and decided it looked delicious and I really wanted another slice (2.5 carbs per slice, lol). I ate 3/4 of it and was suddenly grossed out with the idea of eating the rest. I was just done. I didn’t feel overly full, just comfortable and ready to leave it. Is this a way that satiety can feel?

(Alec) #2

This is exactly the way satiety feels. Both physical and mental cues that eating more may not be the best idea. Some people seem to get the mental cues first, some the physical, some neither, and some both at the same time. You seem to have both. :clap::clap:

(Rachel) #3

Thank you! I’ve never had that kind of thing happen before with something I love to eat.

(Alec) #4

I don’t know how long you’ve been keto, but if this is a strange feeling, it is a sign that your hormones are getting back into balance. One of the many things keto does is heal our hormone regulation system (and not just insulin).

For some this can take a long time (some are stating here that they never feel satiated, and hence have to count calories), but my opinion is that keto can usually fix the hormonal balance to feel satiety and hunger as we are supposed to. Some (like me) might need to work on it more than others (sounds like you!). :+1:

(Rachel) #5

Today is Day 9

(Ethan) #6

It took cheese-and-cream-free carnivore to get me some satiety. Keto alone wasn’t enough.

(Alec) #7

I hear ya!! I have had to drop a few foods (for me it’s mainly nuts), to hear the signals better. But keto is the core requirement, and we all have to figure out how we tweak it to get to hear the signals again.

If so, you are doing well…

(Carl Keller) #8

Say hello to leptin behaving how it is supposed to. Leptin is the hormone that opposes ghrelin. Ghrelin is what increases hunger and leptin is what tells you that you’ve had enough. Both of these hunger hormones behave irrationally when we eat lots of processed foods and it can be quite a shock when they start working properly.

The point you are at now was one of my eureka moments. The other was when I was able to go an entire day without eating and I wasn’t that hungry or the slightest bit cranky.

(Alec) #9

Ah, the wonders of fat adaption! I also remember my first time when I didn’t get hungry during a 36 hour fast, it was kinda weird.

Nowadays, when I am towards the end of a fast, and the ketones are high, my workmates know I am on a fast cos I talk fast and expect them to keep up with some difficult concepts… my brain becomes “wired”!

Fast day today, fast talking this afternoon… :slight_smile:

(Ethan) #10

I understand that. Pistachio and peanuts were a a common snack for more. Coffee with HWC fed the urge for cheese, which led to more hunger and snacking on nuts! Stalled for 15 months on keto, but just dropped 15 pounds in 3 weeks switching to carnivore sans cream and cheese.

(Alec) #11

You are talking my language… I also have gone (close to) carnivore, and suddenly the weight seems to want to go. I am currently not measuring (effort to remove the difference between on and off mode), but I can feel it, my trousers are suddenly looser, and I can feel the lighter feeling…

I used to eat a lot of nuts, but they are now gone (shame!).

(Ethan) #12

I love food. I like anything and love everything: liver, lasagna, brains, bananas, crabs, steak, broccoli, cheese, nuts, butter, mangos, etc! It’s why I can do this so easily. Each time I remove a food I love, I still get to eat more of another I also love!

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #13

Lucky you! It took me three weeks for something like that to happen, and it was quite a surprise to this piggy carb-burner. I had to put half a plate of food away for later—much later, as it turned out.

Until then I was like that joke about checks and being overdrawn: “I can’t be finished eating, there’s still food on my plate!”

(Alec) #14

When I was a small lad we were taught at school (quite harshly) and I think at home (“eyes bigger than your stomach?”) that this was the truth. It is still 100% embedded in my brain and culture. It is a real effort NOT to eat everything on my plate.

We parent in a VERY different way to my parents with food. A phrase I repeated to my son and daughter again and again when they explained they didn’t want to finish something: “we do not force feed people here. Leave what you don’t want to eat.” Can be a dangerous strategy, but I think I prefer that culture to the force feeding one I have lodged in my brain that I think I will never shake.

(Karim Wassef) #15

It is hard to waste food. It aches me because my upbringing was similar - “it’s sinful to waste food when people are starving in the world”

But I have to counterpoint myself “well, if I eat it, they still don’t get more to eat… and I hurt myself”.

Satiety to me is when you can have as many almonds and macadamias as you want and you just can’t eat one more… and still be under your macros.

I know because I had to push past it for an experiment and it almost made me hate foods I love.

(Alec) #16

I got the same idiocy thrown at me at school as well. I remember getting into trouble once when I rather bravely told a teacher I didn’t like I was happy to let the starving person have what I hadn’t eaten. She wasn’t impressed with my attitude!! :joy::joy: Ah school days, some great, some not so great.