Reflux is HORRIBLE After Starting Keto


(Kel Ta) #69

Consider first the root cause of GERD and LPR- fermentable carbohydrates, gastroparesis, dysmotility of the gut, bacterial dysbiosis or low HCL/Pepsin- Check out Dr. Robillard’s work- the only thing that helped me https://digestivehealthinstitute.org/


(Campbell smith ) #70

I had the complete opposite experience when starting low-carb/keto. Acid reflux disappeared overnight – literally. That has allowed me to identify which foods were causing it over time, so now I know what to avoid. I have to guess your intake of some food items has gone up to compensate for the carbs. One or several of those items are the likely culprits. You can try to figure it out by removing some foods from your diet for a day or two, and see if you notice any improvements. I hope this helps!


(Dee Mila) #71

I never had acid reflux before and after a month of keto I ended up at the ER 5 times in a month. No one knew what’s going on…they thought I was anxious. It was all keto:(


(Dee Mila) #72

I have never suffered from acid reflux until I started Keto. I ended up 5x at the er. Doctors didn’t know what is going on…It was terrible I thought I was going to die.
I would not recommend Keto to anyone.
There’s just not enough research on it. It’s making a lot of people sick.


(Steve) #73

Sorry for your experience, but we’ve seen Keto help a lot more people that it’s hurt (few and far between from what I’ve seen in terms of it not agreeing with people).

Myself included - had reflux often until I went Keto (and lost the weight) - and using ACV helps ensure I never get acid reflux or heartburn ever again.


(Bunny) #74

I have found (personally) that besides ACV digestive bitters and fermented foods eliminate it (acid reflux, heart burn, GERD etc.) completely and a good indication I also had a fatty liver also gone thanks to the Ketogenic lifestyle and by preventing NAFLD by upping my choline methionine[1] in % ratios to regulate my weight loss and eating non-GMO’s…

Footnotes:

  1. Methionine and choline regulate the metabolic phenotype of a ketogenic diet: Low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets are commonly used as weight loss alternatives to low-fat diets, however the physiological and molecular adaptations to these diets are not completely understood. It is assumed that the metabolic phenotype of the ketogenic diet (KD) is caused by the absence of carbohydrate and high fat content, however in rodents the protein content of KD affects weight gain and ketosis. In this study we examined the role of methionineand choline in mediating the metabolic effects of KD. We have found that choline was more effective than methionine in decreasing the liver steatosis of KD-fed mice. On the other hand, methionine supplementation was more effective than choline in restoring weight gain and normalizing the expression of several fatty acid and inflammatory genes in the liver of KD-fed mice. Our results indicate that choline and methionine restriction rather than carbohydrate restriction underlies many of the metabolic effects of KD. …More
  1. Heartburn – 12 Clinically Proven Natural Cures - Dr. Akil Palanisamy MD
  1. 10 Steps to Beat Acid Reflux Naturally - Dr. Jockers
  1. Acid Reflux Medication Linked to Liver Disease (& Better Alternatives) - Dr. Josh Axe

Nausea reflux
Problems with stomach acid/GERD
(Jen Andrew) #75

Same here, my GERD went from few times a year to every day since I started Keto. My doctor said I have weak LES and that the fat keeps it open. I also got tested positive for h. pylori which supposedly makes my stomach less acidic, no ulcers or pain. I will try to kill it naturally with mastic gum and other supplements. When I used to eat carbs with fat I guess carbs were absorbing the fat and it wouldn’t spill back up… Vegetables don’t absorb the fat probably because there is too much fiber. So I just cut on added fats and I get less severe GIRD and less often, which I manage with Zantac. But still its not fun to live like this.


(Thurston ) #76

As long as I stay away from tuna and keep nuts chicken and bacon to respectable quantities I’m ok. I didn’t realize carbs were the source of my gerd until I went keto.


(Navachi Brinkley Jackson) #77

What is LCHF? I have been suffering with Gerd since I started Keto 3 months ago. I have been taking Pepcid but the Gerd keeps coming back. I only drink wine 2 a month. But I drink coffee/tea daily with MCT oil. Please help me to continue on keto without Gerd🤢


(Amy) #78

Pepcid will make it worse! You need to increase the acid in your stomach to trigger the esophageal sphincter to close. Some use apple cider vinegar, but find it irritates my esophagus on the way down. I use HCL with Betaine tablets. I needed it a lot in the beginning, while my body was getting used to digesting so much fat, but now I only take it when I eat beef or eggs.


(Gabe “No Dogma, Only Science Please!” ) #79

I’ve actually been dealing with this issue this week – saw the doctor for it. I have to take Zantac twice a day, cut the coffee and alcohol for a while, and try losing more weight (I’ve put on some weight on keto.)

Definitely stop drinking the coffee and tea. Coffee with MCT oil is pretty much the perfect trigger for GERD. Also: Don’t touch spicy food. Reduce the amount of fatty foods that you eat – if you have a good amount of weight to lose, then you shouldn’t be eating a very high amount of fat anyway. This is all pretty standard advice for GERD.

Let me know if this helps – but for sure the #1 thing I would do if I was you is STOP DRINKING COFFEE!

(LCHF = low carb high fat)


(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #80

“LCHF” stands for “low-carbohydrate, high-fat,” though some people prefer to say “healthy fat.” LCHF and keto mean the same thing to me, but many people make a distinction on the basis of the amount of carbohydrate allowed. On these forums, people referring to “keto” generally mean under 20 g/day of carbohydrate, and they say LCHF if they are referring to a higher carobhydrate limit.

Dr. Phinney, who coined the term “nutritional ketosis,” uses the terms LCHF and keto interchangeably. When he was working with fat-adapted athletes, he used to talk about “low-carb” as being somewhere between 100g and 125g of carbohydrate, and he used to talk about people getting into ketosis while eating that much carbohydrate. Now that he’s working with diabetic patients at Virta Health, his recommended maximum is 50 g/day. The Dudes recommend 20 g/day, because that is a level at which virtually everyone who’s not severely metabolically deranged can be sure to get into ketosis. People with really bad metabolic derangement may need to eliminate carbohydrate from their diet completely.


(Brian) #81

Wow. 3 - 4 shots. That’s almost enough to taste.

I seldom drink less than a quart and seldom drink more than 2 quarts of coffee a day, usually right in the middle. I tend to drink it weaker than many, usually it’s about half strength according to package directions.

I did notice it’s more acidic without the half pint of HWC I used to use (I don’t anymore) with my 1.5 quarts of coffee. I do now add about 2TBSP of butter to that much and whip it in but I still need just a bit of HWC or H&H (not much, but a little) to cut the acidity just a little, but that’s for taste, not for any repercussions of any kind.


(Navachi Brinkley Jackson) #82

Thanks for your response. What is HLC, I will try it if I can find it… I live in Saudi Arabia


(Amy) #83

HCL with Betaine is a digestive aid (hydrochloric acid). I know it seems counter-intuitive to increase acid to treat GERD, but it really does work.


(Navachi Brinkley Jackson) #84

Thanks Amy you have been very helpful…


(Gabe “No Dogma, Only Science Please!” ) #85

Espresso shots! I doubt you’re drinking 2 quarts of espresso per day! :wink:


(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #86

HCl is hydrochloric acid—stomach acid, which is why people are recommending it.


(Brian) #87

OK. Have never done espresso, just regular coffee. Don’t know how the two even compare.


(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #88

Espresso has a stronger flavor, but significantly less caffeine than regular coffee.