This comment is all about me so I thought I put a warning here. I couldn’t resist, this (protein in general and protein and me) is a very interesting topic for me.
I definitely have an instinct so strong that I can’t even willfully change it (my personality keeps me from it, I don’t suffer when my body screams for more protein).
I looked at my October notes, my protein is 25-36%, it depends a lot on my calorie intake. I keep my protein as low as I comfortably can, it’s usually 120-150g.
1.4-1.6g/ideal kg is about 76-96g, I am completely unable to do it though it may be an interesting experiment for some not hungry low-cal day… I just need to be VERY determined, I do love my protein. I actually would find lowering protein (if my body would be on board) helpful as I typically overeat fat and I suspect that the main reason for it is to get my 120+ g protein. As soon as I reach that, I typically stop getting hungry and even tempted. Be it with 80g or 280g fat. Moderate protein is hard on people like me who seemingly need high protein for satiation and fat just can’t help under normal circumstances (but I actually never did 280g fat with 70g protein. On my 300g fat days my protein is 250g, I like a specific fattiness and even if I eat a lot of something very fatty or very lean, some automatism triggers the opposite desire and keeps my ratio in its normal range. Not a small range but not huge enough to allow me to eat 50% fat or 80% for more than one very occasional, special day.)
I can’t do fat first either. I always desire fatty protein, I can’t split them apart. I probably could eat 10g butter when hungry and that’s it. If I want to control my fat/protein ratio (good luck with that… but okay, I may be able to do it to a little extent sometimes), I need to choose different cuts of meat, first of all. That is the vast majority of my fat intake, no matter what - and eggs but they tend to have the same fattiness even if I use a bit more yolk or white. Meat is the significant one. I can eat meat with 5% and 25% fat in big amounts and while I eat way less from something with 80% fat (in weight… it’s almost fat tissue but it has a tiny meat and that changes everything for me. I can’t eat pure fat tissue, I always need protein with it), the huge fattiness balances it out. I love fatty dairy… But if I raise my fat, I inevitably start to desire leaner stuff so I need to keep myself back. Once I wanted to try lowish-protein with high fat. I focused on fat and easily ate very much of it, that is never a problem for me. But I didn’t watch my protein so it went over 200g… It’s hard!
I will try it again but I have more important goals now.
How people control their macros, it’s so strange to me… And splitting the food, crazy. Normal people eat “everything” together. I actually can eat almost anything alone and I often prefer that but it’s for my ingredients and my ingredients are almost exclusively fatty protein sources and the mostly fat ones are in tiny amounts… And if I am hungry, I desire the kind of food that gives me satiation, protein… (Very low-protein high-fat like fat fast actually satiates me but that’s not a normal way of eating and I can’t do it for 2 days.)