Plant-based meat


(Karla Sykes) #1

Have any of you ever tried the vegan meat in Krogers? I have a vegan who is a strict vegan and plant-based food and non junk food. And she pick me up a pack of this and told me to try this meat bass plant material and it’s just like the real thing. She has lost a little over a hundred and sixty pounds. She leaves absolutely no Dairy and no junk food. She does not allow her to self to eat any types of chips or anything that basically have a barcode. With the exception of like her plant-based meat. And she’s also one of those minimalist I hope I am saying this right where they eat under the amount of calories that are required so that they can live longer. I hope I am saying this correctly I am not really familiar with this type of Lifestyle maybe some of you guys heard of it I don’t know


#2

I didn’t try it but it’s very obvious to me that nothing not meat is even remotely similar to meat (except the texture sometimes). It’s easy to fake tasteless, bad meat where the only taste is spice but real, flavorful meat, you can’t make that.
I will try such things when they won’t be way more expensive than proper meat from a trusted farm. The faux meat in the past were awful (plants are so tasty, I don’t get it). I believe modern ones are better.
If I want something plant-based with a meaty texture and spices, I use seitan. I don’t want anything better than my version and it’s cheap, the ingredients have a long shelf life…

But tell us if you try this, I am curious what it is like (not like our tastebuds are the same, far from that, even one vegan loves fake stuff and the other finds it bad but still).

I doubt forcing ourselves to a slower metabolism is healthy but eating just as much as we truly need and not more, that’s indeed healthier than overeating, I’ve read that several times and it makes perfect sense to me. I don’t like being wasteful anyway but eating too much may be a burden for the body too (after some point it clearly is).


(Karla Sykes) #3

I like everything that you just stated. I’m not into this lifestyle again you’re hearing this from a Second Source I might be saying something incorrect but I don’t know this is just my perspective. Just a minimal amount of whatever her body needs and she believes that it increases her life energy and force I believe those are the words that you use her. But again I’m not into that lifestyle I’m just a spectator I prefer meat but it’s for free so I guess I’ll try it and I’ll give you my perspective


#4

Just avoiding junk food and paying attention to what one eats can make a big difference.

But, at $3 per 4-ounce patty? No thanks. My wallet can tell the difference. Foods with a “keto” or “ketogenic” label on them have the same problem – the price is usually more than double, sometimes more than triple, what it would otherwise be.

I’ve always found it amusing that vegetarians seem to want to eat something that looks (and tastes) like a meat product. :slight_smile:

But I suppose that’s not so different from keto-ers wanting to eat something that looks and tastes like bread or pasta or similar items.


(Ethan) #5

I’ll never eat it unless I am dying, as the ingredients are processed and look terrible to me. These are not healthy. You can lose weight many ways, and this is not an ideal one for me.


(Pete A) #6

Why consider this?


(Jane) #7

Because it was a gift from a friend and she is curious about it? Not like one package of fake meat is going to wreck her health.


#8

I don’t want to abandon this (I always get carried away and gets critical, bad combo) but maybe you are interested about my views about it?

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I’ve always found it amusing that vegetarians seem to want to eat something that looks (and tastes) like a meat product. :slight_smile:

Me too though I may understand it to some extent. To some very little extent…?
I was a vegetarian. I loved meat. Proper, good quality meat. It was fine, I loved plants too. And I wasn’t a vegan, I ate lots of animal products. Faux meat would have been a huge disappointment for me as I know how the real thing tastes like. But having meat texture and flavor with plants? That would have been great, I suppose. But it wasn’t that important. I wanted great tasting food all the time and I had it with honest vegetarian dishes, even on low-carb and on keto.
Some people want a similar look for tradition or fun or whatnot. Some vegans work A LOT just to make something looking like an egg yolk… It’s a bit crazy for me (the taste won’t be anything like that, obviously as it’s impossible) but whatever makes them happy.
The role is something I can understand. We have some vegetable dish, mostly vegetables, we need some richer, calorie denser stuff along with it. Some faux meat type thing fills this role. It’s nothing like meat, of course but it satiates and amuses me (as long as it’s protein rich) while a vegetable dish or grains never could. I didn’t need it as a vegetarian as I am not choosy and my other animal products fulfilled this role just fine. Surely many vegans simply eat their complex plant dish with low-carb vegetables, legumes, grains and maybe even nuts, that is a possibly filling meal. Others may need the vaguely meat type stuff with their simple veggie dishes, it’s the role, not real similarity with meat. I guess. It makes sense to me. I have two very good plant-based “fake meat” recipes but they aren’t fake meat to me at all (I didn’t even made them while being a vegetarian). They are fried things one can eat with grains and/or vegetables. They fill a hole in the absence of meat (or if someone doesn’t want to eat meat that day).

I personally want my bread for the role, it obviously won’t taste like anything carby… At least to me.
I needed something to put my Marmite on. But I had no bread on low-carb for years and it was okay.
Pasta is nostalgic a bit and I want to put my shredded cheese on something… The one I use with poppy seeds (frieg egg stuff, nothing like pasta but perfect for the role) isn’t good with cheese. Sadly, I prefer macaroni and I can’t make it :smiley: By the way, I don’t like real pasta anymore. I want a better thing with the same role and if it’s cheese, even similar looks.

And why wouldn’t we want to eat something like bread or cake or ice cream if it’s fine for us?
Some of us just want to eat little net carbs for some reason but that’s it. If we can have some nice stuff without much carbs, why not? Who cares that the common, original version is not keto? They are different things. I understand some people have extra goals but many of us haven’t. If it fits our keto and we want it, it’s fair game :slight_smile: As time passes, I care less and less about “proper” things (and my attitude was pretty much IIFYM anyway with a personal blacklist). I can’t help my desires gets more modest, fortunately they are still lively enough, it would be scary to become a proper one…


(bulkbiker) #9

Have you actually seen the crap that is in fake meat?


(Karla Sykes) #10

Honestly I never bought fake meat but as far as this it’s only hot high quality ingredients I’m not sure if you’re familiar with this type of product or fake meat you can look it up is widely available but it is no soy no gluten none of that garbage in it trust me my friend is a strict vegan and she is very strict on what she put in her body


(Ethan) #11

None of these ingredients look healthy… did you read it?

https://images.app.goo.gl/xnuVbg5DHKg5vWre6


(Todd Allen) #12

Please don’t exaggerate! Salt is a perfectly healthy ingredient. Ascorbic acid isn’t bad either.


(Karla Sykes) #13

No offense Ethan I think you need to go back and re-read my original post. I did not pay for this product literally my good friend who’s a strict vegan gave it to me for free to try. I have read the ingredients and I will screenshot the ingredients and put it in this message I don’t have a problem with this ingredients. Also this was for free and I was simply trying it and I posted this here just to get alternative opinions on if people ever even tried it. I am not stating anyone should go out and purchase meatless products I love meat but it was for free so I decided to try it. I’m not being harsh or anything I’m just simply reiterating my point


(Allie) #14

Plant based “meat” = Chemical shit storm


(Karla Sykes) #15

Lol​:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


#16

I made myself a “beyond meat” burger once. It tasted pretty authentic. I was amazed. But yeah- nothing beats a real burger. They do it out of kindness to animals and because they say that the amount of land needed to feed cows can easily be converted into growing plants. It is a Buddhist mentality and has its merits too. Sometimes I feel guilty eating meats. Especially when I look at my little dog.


#17

I know a vegetarian, was with her the other day and she had the Impossible Whopper from BK, knowing my meat consumption she told me to try some so I had a couple bites. The scientist in me couldn’t say no. It DID taste good! Was it 100% a “real” Whopper? No, but it was close enough to chock it up to maybe being a little colder or something so less meaty? You COULD pass it off as a real burger though. That said that “meat” is absolutely a test tube science experiment and in NO WAY a real whole food. You’re friend is absolutely ignoring her own mindset by eating it. At least a potato chip WAS a potato and sliced and fried in probably crap oil… but it IS a real food. That stuff isn’t. There’s a super uppity natural food store near me that’s real big with the veggies and vegans and there’s signs saying they don’t, and WON’T sell Impossible/Beyond meat because it’s not food and against what their trying to do!


(Karla Sykes) #18

I tried it with a ton of seasonings and it’s not bad. In an apocalyptic world if i was starving and it was totally free I guess I will eat it to survive but I am a meat eater. But it was free and I tried it and no harm done


(Kay) #19

I thought the protein in ‘pea protein’ wasn’t very bioavailable. Why would anyone want to eat this frankenfood?


(Omar) #20

they may as well give it octane number just like gas.

or produce it in oil refinery