OXtoberFest ZC Challenge


#121

best hubby award, I don’t give it out much to him :wink: but he sure gets it today.

he ran up to little store for an electrical part. he passed by our meat store and stopped in! He came home with a monster rack of beef ribs. OMG
not bad, only 3.19/lb.

We seared them and they are in a dutch oven in the oven at low temp to tenderize and I can’t wait. Remember that I am not hungry and don’t know when I will eat…well the smell in the house is heaven right now LOL

I am drooling at the thought. I can’t wait now to eat. Havent eaten anything yet, should be ready around 2 or so? Longest 2 hrs of my life right now HAHA

Will report how good they were. Walk in with a slab of meat and my hubby is the hero of the day! WEEeeeeee


#122

that is cool, we love having carnivores around and chatting, even if you can’t get here a ton like some of us :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

great post and it sounds like you are doing very well and experimenting good on yourself! bacon and pulled pork…oh yum!!

many days I ate a lb. of bacon in a blink and heck it was glorious too! enjoy it and laugh the whole time you think others are eating egg whites and low fat cottage cheese LOL Carnivore on!


#123

:innocent: heaven, I was in heaven :innocent:

:partying_face::raised_hands:

we chowed down on big old beef ribs, so darn good. Hubby said he could eat like 5 more. Good amt of meat on them but not a ton ya know but luckily the rack was a big one so we got enough each.

Just happy today, all beefed up HAHA


(Kellyn ) #124

sounds amazing!


#125

My sponge cakes are just like my pancakes. Eggs and as little other thing as possible :smiley:
As whipping the egg whites makes it harder, I can even get away with 100% eggs… It obviously won’t be like regular sponge cake, it will deflate (though I think I somehow managed to seriously reduce it by accidentally using only the upper heating wire for the first minutes… I will make more experiments), it’s not properly firm but well, my normal (well, keto, of course) sponge cakes deflate too as I refuse to use much other things, just eggs :smiley: I don’t care.

I don’t have a final recipe yet, I just started.
I like to whip the yolks too but it’s not necessarily important… I whip the whites well, add the yolks… I had good experiences with adding extra hard-boiled egg yolks (half as many as the normal ones, usually) but it’s only really needed for my egg yolk cakes… But it makes my eggs more dough-like…? But since I realized mascarpone is totally good for that, I only use extra hard-boiled egg yolks if I have some leftover.
I run out of mascarpone, I use sour cream now. It has a different taste, it’s way easier to mix in but well, it’s not nearly as firm and we use that in this situation.
And today I made pizza-like things (best crust this far for me, I can hold them well too) so I used no sour cream but some cheese, ground into small pieces. It turned out my coffee and seed grinder that we use all the time is able to grind hard cheese, well the outer, drier parts of my half-hard Gouda.
Somewhere around 10g cheese for 1 eggs, I don’t like overuse cheese unless when it’s on top of something.
It was good. But even my only eggs version was good today.

These are the older mascarpone ones (5g mascarpone per egg), they deflated but today the strong upper heat helped, I have no photo about those.

I find them beautiful and fun. They were very neutral, almost anything is good with them. I ate these with my smoked pork :smiley: It’s the same as eating the pork with boiled eggs (with a tiny extra mascarpone in this case but I really can skip that) but it entertains me much more. It’s not for everyday, just when I want something different.

I haven’t tried the egg pudding yet but I have broth for it now!

I probably couldn’t eat the real thing even if they got out all the sugar… it’s not fatty and eggy enough for me, you know. I started to eat ice cream on keto, I wasn’t into it before. I very very strongly prefer my cake, my ice cream that evolves with me. That’s why I don’t get why they are called fake. They aren’t fake. They ARE cake and ice cream, without unwanted things. They are improved for me and different for others but they are just those things. And I don’t brainwashed myself, I can’t replace anything - almost nothing - but sweets are way, way better when very low-carb! :smiley: (Except some honey/apricot jam and walnut cakes, my top favs. Not like I missed them in the last 1.5 years. And I ate one once a year and the other once a decade in the last 10 years. I am very good at not eating certain tasty things for a long time without missing them. So I usually don’t understand when someone “must” eat everything tasty regularly. Erm, sorry, I carried away.)

I thought about egg noodles… But this far it was easier to put 8 poached eggs into my soups… I so love them in soups and only in soups… Well I put some into curry but that’s about as carni as my onion soup, close but not that. May be good for carnivore-ish, though especially if I take out my eggs so they just get some condiment, basically. I will test if Alvaro eats that food, it would be so nice to get away with this as a lunch… It’s not always fun being in the kitchen for an hour - and not having any own food in the end. Quiche is a nice option, I use my muffin molds, I put veggies into Alvaro’s and meat into mine. I haven’t made it since a long time, well it uses much cheese and I eat more than enough cheese already.

I thought about meat spaghetti when Amy showed me her turkey ground meat “worms” :slight_smile:
I so wouldn’t do things with meat as in the video, omg, I would end up too much stuff to clean and anyway. If I have meat, I just eat it. I play more with my eggs as they are a bit more boring in their simple state. But I really can’t help but make recipes, it’s a hobby, I just don’t want to put much time and effort into it. Like I made paleo/keto “pasta”… 2 times during the decade when I ate no normal pasta? (I was into pasta before. But I felt no need to replace it except when I wanted to eat poppy seed pasta. But I definitely wouldn’t form and boil things, oh no, I just mixed ground poppy seed into eggs and fried it, breaking them into tiny pieces in the process, they were perfect. After I topped them with much poppy seed and sweetener, of course.)

I am simple. I mix eggs with something and fry them. Sometimes I bake them. And there’s meat but Alvaro makes our meaty dishes. If I do it, I fry/bake them :slight_smile: Meat is supposed to be good, nothing special is needed. I will play a tad more with my steak in the distant future but I never want to marinate and add sauces or whatever. I don’t get it. Good meat, heat, salt. Rarely onion or garlic but they lose their role pretty quickly, it seems. Boring fish is where I need to be a bit more creative. But it’s still simple enough.

I love simple things (and the possibility to complicate to my heart content). I omit everything totally unneeded on every woe. Salt in sweets, sugar in bread, added fat in certain cakes, sodium bicarbonate/baking soda in eggy cakes… Sugar, flour, salt and extra liquid in pancakes though I add a tiny something instead of the much flour, just a bit as the lack of water/milk makes it unnecessary to add much… Replacing things with eggs or adding more eggs (especially yolks) is my favorite recipe changing, of course. I am not someone who complains about eggyness, I make things as eggy as possible without ruining things. I can’t make a pancake only from eggs, some people do but that’s not pancake for me.

And I love that I am not forced to do these, usually, at least. It’s for the times when I want to play a little.

Oh. Beef ribs… I forgot what beef is like, it was half a year already (fine, I remember the taste but not the tried out different cuts) but Alv said the ribs were horribly chewy at some parts, not again. So… Well it’s obvious but it can be made not-super-chewy then? Alvaro seemed very against the idea to buy it again… Some other cut made some great stew so we aren’t totally hopeless at cooking some kind of beef but we barely know anything at this point. And we can’t even practice now.

IDK how you guys eat much bacon… I once ate 60g in one sitting… I am better with smoked pork chuck :smiley: I probably could eat much. Like, 100g in one sitting? It’s great but very satiating and salty too. I must stop there.
Normal meat is different. I ate 600g beef once but that lasted for a day (the satiation, I mean, I ate it quickly enough).
And I could eat way, way more chicken as it’s way leaner than the beef was… But that would be wasteful. Well, fun for once. My aunt will have great chicken thighs again, I am sure. I go on the 21st. Oti often has chicken too but… 2 thighs per person (not a double one)? But at my aunt… There are plenty… Very good quality.
I rarely buy chicken due to my problems about very proper source… That affects taste too, very much, chicken is famous about that and people feel it so good chicken is very many times more expensive and hard to find too though we should check the market in the city, there must be home-raised chicken and ducks there. We always forget or just can’t have time for everything, we visit many stores every time and get enough of it very soon. And we get whole chicken this way… With all the work required (and people even slaughtered them and did all the work from that point… I rather would eat eggs - yeah, nutritionally not good enough. And I never would have invented bread making, that’s very sure. It is so surreal. A tiny, not edible seed and the humans decided they work very much and very long to make bread of it that is still not a good food. he first breads must have been extremely awful. I am not particularly happy with modern ones and they are vastly improved versions).
Alvaro still didn’t have his lessons from her mother about taking a bird apart. We always manage but it’s not graceful, not right and a bit stressful and time-consuming…

I want a turkey one day. Maybe not a whole one. Okay, a thigh. A thigh would be perfect :slight_smile:

I wondered about emu necks today… That surely has some nice meat on it. Even Alvaro would find it who considers chicken necks mere bones with meat only accessible for cats. But it isn’t true.

And pay big money for chicken breast… The part I would only eat as it’s protein, don’t waste it… I am glad Alvaro loves lean meat. He can get almost all the breast from chicken and rabbit. Sometimes I have a bite, not bad but well, not good.
Stores now have skinless chicken thigh… It’s good if they do something with the skin instead of people throwing it out… But crispy, tender chicken skin is among the best parts… But tastes differ and anyway, all that fat, totally horrible.

Good for you :yum: So please tell two little newbies what to do with beef ribs if they are originally chewy… Or is it that type, those chewy little parts are hopeless? We did cut out visible very chewy parts and fed to the cats but it was chewy everywhere else too, it was impossible to get out everything… I hope I didn’t say stupid things, my memories are old and English isn’t good with meaty topics (I learned so many words since I write into carnivore threads) but well, we truly have little idea about things there… We both had good cook moms but no beef expert dad at all (how sad, I know it now). Our moms almost never even cooked beef. Mine barely cooked pork :frowning: Just stupid chicken. Not even once fish… I remember vegetarian dishes and tons of sweets. Not a good start but it could have been worse. I ate as many eggs as I wanted.

Maybe it’s my last day in the near vicinity of carnivore-ish as Alvaro made too much food for himself, it can’t be freezed and it will be its 4th day and I need to help to eat it (we DON’T waste food, ever). And I like it and it’s helpful when we don’t have much carni food and anyway, I wouldn’t last much longer and I so don’t need the stress of trying to do super low-meat carni-ish (not even just trying to do it but thinking like crazy to get meat but it’s hopeless, I just get moral stress, maybe not the right word, it’s more complicated) so I don’t mind too much. It’s so early that I probably come back soon even if it makes little sense with my circumstances but I make a little experiment if I can, I remove all bans, inhibitors, whatnots and really eat whatever, whenever I want (as much as it’s possible, no way I can do it completely). I am curious what will happen after the first 1-2 days. Definitely not crazy carb eating (I won’t do that even in the first ones. even the remaining Aussie sweets don’t have that power. or my precious grapes. nothing, I hope).
I am most curious about my fat intake. Carbs will be lowish, protein as always but I suppressed my desire towards fat for many years, now I am fine with less but I never tried to be totally free and it’s possible that my rebellious self focused on other things and couldn’t break that part. I hope I don’t ruin anything.

(I need help with my thread addiction, seriously.)


(Laurie) #126

Shinita, yes, the “separate dessert stomach” is a thing. At least it used to be!


(Edith) #127

I used to tell that to my parents when I was young. It didn’t matter if I was full from dinner, there was a separate dessert spot.


#128

I never had dinner or dessert times set. I was one who ate 24/7 when I got older and we closed down the farm. Before that ‘I ate normal’ and held off the lbs, quit the farm and got sluggy and ate whatever I wanted, any time I wanted and let me tell you, I could eat HAHA It was sad LOL I am so grateful for a great lifestyle eating plan in my life!


#129

Some people said when I was a kid that I ate once a day: from the morning late into the night. Well, I never ate before 11am from my own will… But if I started to eat… I got hungry again and again - until my body considered the offering good. It’s still true, actually. I start to eat (at 4pm today)… And I get hungry in every 3 hours (sometimes 1, sometimes 6-8 but usually 3) until I had enough (I normally have TMAD this way). I couldn’t help my body counted the carbs as negative in my high-carb times. Probably added fat never mattered much. I ate a ton of added fat with my carbs. And some people actually can get satiated with bread and butter/lard. Amazing. It was like nothing to my body, it patiently (or not, I was hungry) waited for its food (even after half a loaf. I tried it a few times). As I loved fatty protein and hated hunger, it arrived unless my circumstances kept me. Once I got a tiny drumstick at lunch in school. And carbs, of course. I was so hungry and disappointed I cried. I even bit the tiny tender bone into two… But it didn’t give me more nutrients.

And this caused me eating at 1am again. I needed it to eat enough but it doesn’t felt good afterwards (it was very properly extreme low-carb, various meats and a bit cheese, I don’t ruin this day just because it’s already Wednesday, I have standards. and I so don’t desire carbs anyway. maybe I still freeze the carby food, it’s a ton anyway). Why can’t any method work for a proper food intake? I often eat too little during the day, no matter what I try in a natural, comfortable way. Hopefully it will better with a bit more meat later. In the past I ate a bit little even then but I didn’t get hungry at night if I remember correctly. Sigh.


#130

Hey Peeps!

Hope all you ZC folks are rockin’ OXtober!!!

Had my Dr. appt today. Had to laugh when she decided I needed a blood draw (checking iron, lipids, etc. ). I’m like, “Alllllrighty then… I’ve been bleeding for nearly 60 days - what’s another couple ounces gonna matter?” lol! She sent in an Rx for a tapered dose of progesterone to use if things get out of control more. But, I felt better when she said that for a person with my history- this time frame of bleeding typically signals an end to the cycles. Crossing my fingers, toes, eyes…anything else that can be crossed - in hopes that is the case.

Ate decent today. Ground beef, eggs, coffee, cream, butter.

Melted down 4 pounds of butter and ended up with 2 Quarts of Ghee. That was just flippin amazing! Tastes delish. It’s almost solidified now - but I ate some while it was still liquid. Goodness gracious! Was that ever wonderful!!! Nommy nom nom nom!!!

Going to bed early now…Gotta leave at 630am for a SUPER early shift tomorrow. Because we are under mandate to have 2 hours/week for our seniors community - I get the 7am shift and spend an hour cleaning before we open. The Rufus goes to the groomer in the afternoon. I got a fun day ahead!!!
Have a nice evening, all!


#131

really glad to hear that for you SB. I know when you get that Dr conformation of ‘ahh it is probably something simple’ like this explanation’ it does give one a big sigh of relief :slight_smile: I bet it does feel better hearing that, I know it would make me feel better. I hope it all evens out better for you tho soon now.


#132

beef ribs were yum yesterday

had small cheeseburger patty and 4 slices salami for second meal

again, just cruising along with zc. Everything going fine.

today I got a nice steak and my mind is hankering for seafood. I haven’t hit good sales at all. Prices are super rough on seafood darn it. Been wanting crab again along with lobster etc. but geez, I need to hit the lottery to be able to eat enough in a day to make me happy LOL I do have some shrimp left so will hit that up. thank heavens that is still very affordable at this point but need to hit another sale on it to fill freezer again.

Hope everyone is doing great on this challenge month! So far so good for me!


#133

Thank you, @Fangs !! I’m picking up the Rx today while at work.

You gotta try making Ghee, girlfriend! It is so flippin easy, and requires no refrigeration. (That whole no-kitchen fridge saga this summer sent me on a mission to find alternative ways to store things without a fridge.) Given that butter is one of my mainstays, I had to try it.

Hey…while I’m thinking about it - is anyone else having trouble finding canning jars? There are NONE to be found anywhere!!! Amazon had them for $55 case. That’s nuts! They’re only $10-12 normally! Just curious…
Have a good one!


#134

Meanwhile Amy got lectured about how insanely harmful is keto and she must stop asap.
I like certain Australians less and less.

I made ghee once, to make travel food. Not too much work and it totally ruins perfectly nice and tasty butter, it takes away all the tasty particles… I wonder if people feel it differently. BUT it doesn’t spoil and better for people who are sensitive to the tiny lactose or protein in butter.

I never payed for canning jars. I rather buy pickles and use the jars… :slight_smile: But Alvaro’s Mom always has some for me too. I brought so many small jars from her as I don’t really buy things coming in little jars, sometimes mushrooms but it’s a few jars per year. Of course I reuse my jars year after year.
It was a horrible thing when I needed 120 jars in a month when my single apricot tree decided it will be nice and yields a lot. And I had 3 overachiever apricot trees when I came here. I almost went crazy as they all had their intense year at the same time. The tree had 0 fruit this year and I was glad as Alvaro just couldn’t eat the 120 jars. We gave a got of fruit to her mom too but still.

Sorry but jars, of course I talk about fruits :smiley: Last year truly was traumatic. I got many jars from Alvaro’s Mom… And 1.5 days later I had NONE just zillion apricots. I underestimated the tree. I never will do it again. I had to use jars already things in them, I had to be creative. But I don’t buy jars. They are way too expensive for jars that I get for free. I like challenges and sometimes I can handle stressful ones. And I could get away without buying any this far :slight_smile:

I don’t even remember seafood at this point. So poor variety, so high prices… And I am super choosy. I loved octopus, I dislike squid, shrimp is nice but not tasty or filling just interesting, well that’s fine, I consider it spice then… But they are sweet, aren’t them? That bothers me a bit but something surely helps, vinegar (never tried that), much salt, mixing it with some proper food :smiley: I saw about 2 more exotic fishes in supermarkets and that’s about it. We really have super tiny variety. We couldn’t even find Hungarian fishes in a decent variety in a hypermarket! Alvaro wants to try one and he just can’t find it. And it’s not special at all. So it’s so disappointing for me to try to get seafood. Or fish not from the sea. Sometimes I daydream about being at the sea and seeing a very very good seafood market…

It’s good you are nice people. This week, I was attacked by various people. I am not good enough for a carnivore on a Hungarian forum (I eat dairy with lactose, I think that was his problem, I ideologize my horrible choices in the middle of my gluttony but I am surely sick inside and I will see and I will cry! I don’t care, he does it with anyone not agreeing with him but the others are on normal diets at least :D) and I am of course not even remotely good enough for people who consider animal products mostly junk or something, I couldn’t exactly follow one of my not-favorites in this forum. The fun part is that I am not super far from their thinking regarding the topic where the problem emerge and I am pretty open-minded, well that’s actually a problem when one is totally not…
I mostly feel an outsider in every groups, with reason and it’s fine… But sometimes people seriously overreact or just very wrong… And I seemingly discriminate and not even want to understand vegans :smiley: Lol. Why I get this, ME, on THIS forum? It was hilarious. I agree with vegans about many things, I am just an animal who thrives on a different woe…

Oh well. I appreciate you, guys, very very much :slight_smile: Not just because being tolerant enough, you are very good company.

Lunchtime comes… I cook and come back when I am back on track - or in the general vicinity as lately. I really couldn’t do it better now but it was still better than not even trying.


(Kellyn ) #135

I brought 3 hamburger patties and some leftover roast for lunch/dinner today since I will be heading straight to church from work. In the fridge I have some lamb steaks, beef steak, and my hubby bought a whole turkey to roast on Thursday. I have always loved meat. It’s always been the first thing I have eaten on my plate all my life. I love that now I get to eat as much of it as I want and my body composition is changing for the better. I’ve been reading a lot of testimonials on zeroing in on health facebook page that are really inspirational. Between FB, Zerocarbhealth.com, and this forum I stay motivated and inspired. I look forward to checking my progress Monday after adding some dairy back this week. I am being careful with it though. Just one cup of coffee with the HWC and one meal with cheese on my burgers. Have a great day, my zero carb friends!


(Kellyn ) #136

I was talking to a friend on a low carb diet and she brought up pickled eggs. I was wondering if pickled eggs would be okay on a zero carb diet. Anyone know?


#137

I guess it depends on how strict you are about ZC. Pickle juice contains a little bit of carbohydrates, but that’s the actual juice, not just what’s absorbed into the egg. I think the effects would be minimal.

I think the real concern here is that you’d actually consider eating pickled eggs. :wink:


#138

Vinegar is made from a variety of diluted alcohol products, the most common being wine, beer, and rice .

heck you can make them at home with ‘less junk’ in them truly LOL
Combine water, apple cider vinegar, and the seasonings of your choice to create the brine and bring the mixture to a boil.

Thing is ALL about how you do on the vinegar. If you do well, yes they are considered ZC. If your body says oh heck no to vinegar then you dump them.

You could do very well on them for a while and then the body says, oh heck no, these vinegar things have to go LOL kinda like how many zc people might use some spice and find out down the line the body no longer likes it.

So yea use and see is fine on this.

you said earlier: Between FB, Zerocarbhealth.com, and this forum I stay motivated and inspired.

So agree in that I MUST hold true ZC forums to help me all the time and hold plan and remember why I must be here and help others if I can. Strict ZC forums are imperative to me and thank goodness they are out there!!


(Kellyn ) #139

I tried making them when I was keto and didn’t know about the boiling part. No wonder they weren’t so pickled tasting, LOL.

Well, I don’t really need them. Just forgot about pickled eggs and since eggs were zero carb, I wondered about pickled eggs. I am fine with leaving them out of my diet.


#140

Whew!