NoCarbvember Adventure!

#121

that candy bar woulda’ probably taken ya way in the wrong direction but you got gumption and that is fab!!!

yes yes yes let the emotions out on the thread and scream bloody murder here and we will help and support. Darn hard days for many of us and not more new people, heck being longer term I do it too. BUT we learn to eat and eat big, big big and more big even if we hate the food makes us have success in ‘that time we feel down’ and we know one thing, for our bit of depression and emotions we ONE DARN thing, we held to our eating plan. BIG AZZ pat on the back for ya KP!!

(Karnivore) #122

Thank you Daisy, I appreciate your kind words :slight_smile:

(Murphy Kismet) #123

I would say, at least in the carnivore community, we are all together. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

I made some sf chocolates for hubby today (tallow and cacao butter as fats, non-medicated so he can enjoy chocolate without getting too messed up :crazy_face::innocent:), and I had one. :expressionless: I wanted to taste what it was like with a new addition (cinnamon). It wasn’t all that great, tbh. :unamused:

Maybe it was that one taste, but now almost two hours later and my mood is dark and sour. Again. Was it the swerve triggering an (mini?) insulin spike? Was it just the taste? Or was it just something that happens to me, and how my thoughts work and seem to control my body…

I am so sorry your family makes you feel this way.:sweat:

I think we all have something similar. Last xmas, at my aunt’s place, and younger sister (younger by 12 yrs, but she’s a professional and I’m “just” a retail worker) noted my great weight loss since she’d last seen me (100lbs), and asked if I’d “finally done the diet [she] told me about years ago”. I felt attacked, and just answered flippantly, “Yup!” and that was the end of that. I have NO idea what diet she was talking about. I will NOT ask her (she’s a bit of blowhard). Btw, she’s a paramedic, daughter of an RN nurse, so she’s quite immersed in modern medical belief systems. Believes in pills wholeheartedly. Her daughter (now 12) has been on anxiety meds for a few years at least. (I noticed some stimming/ticks in her actions, ie: repeatedly reaching up to pull on her earlobe.)

But it stayed with me, yaknow? It stayed in my head, going over and over in my head, all the possible meanings, hidden and not so hidden. Maybe I have a personality that feels attacked all the time (have they labeled this yet?), so I tend to exist on a defensive level, a hyperawareness of sorts that leads to chronic low grade stress that exacerbates an already precarious mental health?

Aaaannnnd I also tend to overthink things.:nerd_face: My boss tells me so once a week :sunglasses:

I wish I could offer advice on how to get past this, but I have none.:neutral_face: I’m still mentally reeling over an weekend/incident that happened late august. I talked about it with DH, ranted and raged, and cried. But it’s still there. Still sitting and fermenting within me. I feel like it’s a poison that I keep sipping at, and it keeps poisoning me. But I feel like I gotta figure out why I had such an intense emotional reaction.

It wasn’t anything “bad” per se, but a misunderstanding of reason, place, purpose, etc. Confusing? Yeah, that’s my head. :woozy_face: And it seems to be feeding other ideas/thoughts, and poisoning them too. I gotta get out of this funk!

THIS is why I’m doing zc, to see if my brain is indeed as inflammed as it feels (through thoughts and actions), or if this is just who I am, and I have to learn (finally) to deal with it, with who/what I am.

#124

If I couldn’t resist the forum, I write here a tiny bit too.

I finally could go away again and as I am in my determined (and no coffee!!!) November, it’s easier for me to stick to things which are good for me… My food addiction (especially the part that isn’t eating) is severe and being on the forum is very good for procrastination and anyway, no one needs me to have 6 theories a day before I wait a measly week… I will report back after my first week, I take notes until then and try not to think about my eating too much.

It’s very smooth sailing this far. I actually expected it to be harder.

I have some bad photos, my kitchen is never a good place for food photography, oh well. It should be informative, not pretty though it’s always nice when they meet to some extent (I never will be a gastrophotographer, I am not even interested. it’s odd, I am interested in food so much and I like to take nature shots but food photos…?).

It’s even blurry, sorry but I wanted to show you my pork :slight_smile: Just a little bit from each. The Mangalitsa bacon is definitely too fatty for me but it’s a nice, soft one. Not all fat tissue is alike, it’s definitely a Captain Obvious statement! Still, I want more meat for my money, it’s just a little taste.
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I made this some time before I ate… I never can do this. I obviously didn’t eat everything and ate other things too :smiley:

It’s chicken from the soup (meaty bones. I can’t help I have fun with them. Alvaro got the single drumstick) baked in the oven together with almost all the skin from the package and some smoked pork ribs and extra fat from smoked pork ribs I ate in the past days (the pork ribs are underneath somewhere). As it’s too fatty for me but the fat tissue has this noble purpose. But I will buy duck fat, it should suit fowls more… Alvaro didn’t complain about the pork though. Yay. He came a long way too…
Lactose-free cheeses (Gouda and Grana Padano), not like it matters as there is sour cream :smiley: I managed to eat more meat as sour cream every day but it was close yesterday… I feel no problem and I still only had 19g carbs… But I didn’t even touch liver lately. Today I had 8, by the way. Not like it matters but I like numbers.
My sponge cake muffins (first time) need some evolution but the upper part is nice (and the bottom is scrambled eggs without added fat, not a really bad thing but I prefer the fluff)… My sponge cake waffles were great this far but I can put 2 times as much eggs into the oven this way, they are thicker/taller (not like it’s needed for their bread or cake purpose… I surely will perfect this soon.

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I will have fancier meals too but I was fine with this. I am not particularly choosy in this month, at least not this far. I just need a satiating, not very boring meal and that’s it.

I eat soup every day but today it was egg milk soup. The added lard was a bad idea, the vinegar was obviously a good one…

I stop as I really should focus on my life and not my eating. Not like I can avoid it but the least time I spend on food related forums in the next days, the better.
I will read back next time. Not fully, I would be here all day…

My weightlifting is okay, zero changes this far but it’s only my 4th day and my weights are tiny. I so want to get stronger. At last my little glycogen stores are fine and my memory is good if I need to remember how my biceps looked like before… I see that best as my arms never had much fat and it’s my favorite for some reason…

I hope everyone is fine!

(Edith) #125

Hi y’all. Today was much better than both Monday and Tuesday. Both days I had headaches from not eating enough. Hunger is a strange thing on carnivore. I don’t get hungry, I get tired or nauseous or headachey. I’m still learning these new carnivore hunger signals.

Today I ate a fair bit:

Breakfast: leftover steak, bacon, fried egg
Lunch: chicken wings and toasted carnivore bread
Dinner: a big ole ribeye

No headaches today.

November is going to go by faster than we think.

(Daisy) #126

That bacon looks AMAZING!!! All the food does. :heart_eyes:

(JJ) #127

I really like that we can all share here the ups and downs of life.

@KellynP and @Ketodaisy it would be so tricky to know where you were in your cycle without a uterus. I had an ablation years ago, but can just tell which helps work out why I feel nutty as a fruitcake sometimes. Hormones eh?! Hope your day Perks up KellynP.

Ha! @Kismet I obsess over food much like you with your Nestle chocs! My only strategy would be to do as you did and gift them on, but they may be gone from the house but not my mind.
Well done on getting them physically gone.

@Fangs and @VirginiaEdie very timely advice from you both , am trying to keep my belly full of good zc food and push through my emotional challenges.

I woke up hungry today. Insanely hungry.
Breakfast: 3x eggs , ground beef and butter
Lunch: Egg loaf with butter and a coffee - just finished it now, wasn’t super hungry.
Dinner: Hmm tba. Possibly chicken wings and thighs or maybe a steak. Will see what I feel like later on.

I made egg custards this week and now an egg loaf. I think I just felt like some options that were not meat. Pleased with both efforts, I don’t want to get into the trap of substituting non zc style treats/weaknesses like I did with keto, where I would bake sweets and the like every single week, but I think as I used no sweeteners and all animal products other than a wee pinch of nutmeg, I don’t feel I am sabotaging myself. We will see though.

Dropped more weight again, another 2+lbs, so 6lbs total in just under 2 weeks. I need to stay off the scales but couldn’t help it as I know from my clothes and looking at myself I had lost more. I would like to go a bit more steadily as this happened when I kept my carbs low on keto and I dropped too much weight and couldn’t stop it coming off, so upped my carbs, weight stabilised, then I gained.
Other than resistance exercises for strength and short non difficult rides on my bike, I have steered away from any exercise so I don’t run myself into the ground, it’s hard to do as I love to run and cycle, but need to find my groove with zc and how it works with my body first.

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(Daisy) #128

Congratulations!!

(Daisy) #129

No pictures from me today as it’s my weekly fast. I have a lovely lamb steak thawing in the fridge for tomorrow :heart_eyes: I’ve felt great all day, no hunger at all. My body is getting pretty used to this routine in the third month. No food on Wednesday’s lol. But did a lot of praying and good thing too, as I got spiritually attacked today. But I was ready for it with God on my side. It may not work out in my favor, but I stayed supremely calm and didn’t go down without a respectful fight! I shall see tomorrow how it turns out. Otherwise feeling great!

(Karnivore) #130

Back in it today.

Breakfast: 2 hard boiled eggs

“Snack”: 1 pint of whole milk

Lunch: gouda cheese and 3 hamburgers

snack before training: gouda cheese and a CAN of diet coke (i felt like i was going to fall asleep and we don’t have any coffee. one can, however, is a huge improvement from 4+ glasses.)

snacks during training: gouda gouda gouda gouda gouda

dinner: 1 can diet coke + gouda + 3 hamburgers: 1 broken up, 1 plain, 1 with gouda + tillamook zero sugar jerky

drinks: water, seltzer water, whole milk, diet coke

today was a good day eating wise. just the diet coke…i drank the one at lunch because i was going to leave for training and i was so sleepy…i had no time for a nap. oh well. i need to get some black coffee to drink instead. diet coke just…tastes so good…i have a problem. it almost seems like at this point i’ve given up trying to quit. i’m just obsessed with it. whenever we go out to eat i’m just like “DiEt CoKe PlZzZ”, and then i drink glass upon glass upon glass with no restraint. there is also diet coke in the fridge, so it’s right in front of my face. it’s for my mum, though. not me. she let me have some for dinner because i ASKED but i need to CHILL and STOP and omg HELP why does this stuff taste so good.

(Karnivore) #131

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Is the egg raw? and can i replace the cream with milk and the nutmeg with cinnamon? thank you! i really want to try this haha

(JJ) #132

I think milk would work just fine, the egg was the setting agent. Cinnamon or nutmeg, much of a muchness I think, easily changed out I am sure.

The entire recipe was
1x egg
1x cup of cream
1x pinch of nutmeg and salt
Whisk together, put in the oven in 2x ramekins (recipe said 4x ramekins, but I like to EAT ha ha) on a tray with some water in the bottom of it. Bake at 180C (360F I think) for an hour, let sit and set for an hour in the fridge before eating.
I printed the recipe off while at work the other night or else I would link to where I found it, will check the work computer to credit the author.

(Karnivore) #133

Thank you! Maybe I’ll try sometime when I get my hands on some eggs. I guess I would use a cup of milk, the same as your recipe

(JJ) #134

I think it should work, it will just be a bit less fatty. It was very simple, the hardest part was waiting 2 hours.
I liked the taste and it gave me a non cooked/non meat breakfast option after my kids had eaten all of my greek yogurt.

(Karnivore) #135

Nice! Thank you also for reminding me about the existence of greek yogurt haha, i haven’t had any for a while.

#136

it is and we change up so much as we hold plan longer and longer.
I know around month 5 or so I was getting very scared ‘not to eat’ ya know, cause I could go very long without eating cause there just was no hunger, but then boom, I would get jittery and very tired and ‘just strange’ and knew instantly food was a must immediately. I would eat and feel 1000% better fast. It was around then when I got more an eating pattern that worked. I still eat the 2 meals per day and am on auto pilot for my eating times now, so eventually you just hit your natural eating stride that never really involves real hunger but you know it is time to eat and you ‘even out’ and just start to cruise thru zc in fine form. It is so interesting to read your changes and how they are going down for you, cause I walked thru those also :slight_smile:

(Polly) #137

I am also a caffeine addict. Things are OK at the moment because I phased out the coffee gradually to avoid the withdrawal headaches and now only have the decaf stuff.

If you could phase out the caffeine, perhaps the diet coke would seem less appealing?

(Polly) #138

I think custards are sloppier with milk and firmer with cream. The cream based custard sounds like a very good carnivorish option.

#139

Wow! So much reading to catch up on.

I have been eating but slipping back to keto and drinking too much coffee. Work has been hectic and demanding. The management are talking about ‘efficiencies’ and job cuts to meet a ‘savings target’. So, that’s sending the place into turmoil and the people with not enough work to do are getting busy giving the people who get work done more work to do in the hope that they ‘the passengers’ are seen as good managers of workers. At least they realise that job cuts always come from the middle rungs of the ladder.

The stress has had physiological consequences and I feel the need to eat. I can feel that I am not hungry. But there is this instinct to eat what is available as the ‘environment’ is sending signals that changes are happening and that may mean poor availability of food in the future.

So, raging against the machine, I took some time to get out in the sunshine and take Billie, my Labrador, down to the city dog beach. My workplace is too toxic, so I’ve stayed away today. The middle managers are prowling the offices looking for people to have meetings with and spread rumours and guessing game discontent about job cuts. It is customary in our culture to not turn up to work as summer days approach It is morally acceptable. So, I am practising my cultural mores. (All my work that has direct face-to-face requirements with clients got finished yesterday). It is a beautiful sunny Spring day. Then I went to a cafe and got ready to ‘build my own breakfast’, it was 12 noon. But they have a ‘Keto Breakfast’ option. And I went for it.

It turned out to be: a thin fillet steak at the base (where the bread would usually be) heaped with avocado mash, mixed with macadamia nut crumbled. There were two florets of broccoli. It was topped with a poached egg. Not a bad effort for a low carb meal. But off the plan for NoCarbvember. Billie likes broccoli, how about that. Yes! Always take your Labrador to the restaurant.

Last night I learned a lesson as well. It was 8:30pm by the time I got the day’s work done and heading home I went to a grocer that is open 24 hours and they have a roast meat carvery. Unfortunately, they had closed the counter but they had packaged up the roast meat into ‘roast meat meals’. So, I went and collected Billie from her doggy daycare (mom) and we sat down for a late dinner. The meal had meat, vegetables and gravy. So, I took the meat. The ‘vegetables’ = corn, peas, carrot, 2 small potatoes, and pumpkin went to the dog. It was covered in gravy and I added olive oil and two eggs. The gravy was over everything. I ate the meat. At about 2 am I woke up with horrible heart burn, and when I sat up a big gas bubble of a burp was released (you’re welcome). I sat up uncomfortable for awhile and let it settle. I used to get heartburn gastric reflux before I went low carb and this was an unexpected flash back. This morning I woke with an ‘MSG’ headache, another pre-low carb flash back. I can only imagine it was in the gravy, or something on the meat.

What I learned: Make your own food from food you sourced yourself (as best you can). If not, then fast until you can. Eating food that is made to make a business money is dangerous.

Tonight I am cooking for my self. Fangsy has often mentioned a steak cut called a New York strip steak. So I went and hunted one down. This one is from the black angus cow breed. I am looking forward to it helping me back up on the horse.

(Alex ) #140

spent all yesterday cooking, I seem to have literally lost all my hunger!