No! Grass fed is NOT a keto rule


(G. Andrew Duthie) #7

Well said!

I prefer grass-fed meat and dairy for a variety of reasons, but you are absolutely correct that this should not be considered keto dogma.

I especially appreciate the point about having a lot to learn. Simple steps are easier to follow, and you can always enhance as you move forward, once the basics are in place.

This, too! :smiley:


(Brian Miller) #8

I caught myself the other night looking at the eggs at Walmart and thinking my Egglands Best weren’t good enough if they weren’t the grass fed, cage free variety. Luckily I realized I was uneccesarily judging myself and just picked up what I wanted. There are bigger things in life for me to be worried about.


(Luke Jeffery) #9

I agree completely. I’m another that does “Walmart keto” and have lost a [spoiler]shitload[/spoiler] of weight.

I’d also say that that anti vegetable oil thing isn’t strictly a keto issue, but a good health issue. I’d still be producing ketones if all my fat intake was from vegetable oil, but the quality of raw materials and the amount of oxidation occurring in my body would be different.


(Blyss (Old @Charmaine)) #10

I buy what I can afford and leave it at that. It really doesn’t matter what anyone says or how ‘elitist’ anyone’s attitude is regarding what we ‘must and must not’ have regarding our keto food purchases. I’m on a budget like so many others and it’s so unfair to those that deeply need to implement the keto woe to improve health to say a person must have grass-fed everything.


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #11

I love you.
That is all.


(Kathy Meyer) #12

Some people just seem to like rules. I figure that you can do what you can do, and if you can only afford Wal-Mart Keto, go for it. But Wal-Mart does have grass-fed ground beef and antibiotic and hormone-free chicken. They also have uncured bacon, almond flour, coconut oil, and all sorts of other Keto goodies. I’m not a rule person myself, but always appreciate constructive suggestions, done in a kindly fashion.


#14

Thank you for posting this, @Jason. :smiley: I forgot about Bob. He’s awesome!!!


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #15

LMFAO @ljeffery2!! Great spoiler!!!


(Kelly LeBlanc) #16

Butter Bob is the first thing I thought of reading your wonderful post.

Another pet peeve, if you wish to conquer it. So many people think the only way to keto is the way that they keto.


(gooeykablooey) #17

I do walmart/aldi/Costco keto :smiley: wherever I can save the most on anything. Though I will admit I’ve become a Kerrygold snob for butter. Dreading when I run out and might not afford it again


(G. Andrew Duthie) #18

LOL. In the same boat. Got about 6 boxes worth when it was on sale at Costco, and not looking forward to when that runs out.


(Marc) #19

And it irks my diabetic brother-in-law and his diabetic son when I try to explain to them why they should eat low carb. All these choices are on a scale. My in-laws can’t even understand that what they eat impacts their health. I think most people here understand that. Raising the issue that grass-fed beef, pastured eggs, pastured pork, etc. is healthier is raising an issue that the quality of what we eat impacts our health.
If you want to shame me for saying that grass-fed is better than grain-fed you can stand behind my diabetic in-laws that look down on me for saying that low-carb is better than high-carb. My diabetic in-laws are much smarter then me.


#20

@valdivia.marc,
Not sure how to respond to your post. I certainly don’t want to shame you or anyone for eating grass fed, or stating they are healthier choices. I myself am a consumer of grass fed and pasture raised.

What I don’t do is make others who don’t buy/consume grass fed produce feel like they are doing the wrong thing. It’s their choice, and i respect it.

It is difficult when someone embarks on keto for the first time. My point is don’t raise the bar so high that it makes it hard for the person to adopt keto way of eating. Too many rules discourage learning and trying something new. My humble opinion. That’s all.


(Scott Shillady) #21

While I would agree that nutrient profiles are better in grass fed pastured etc. there are some such as I that could not afford to remain Keto spending up for those. I would end up having to buy rice potatoes and pasta to be able to feed my family. It is much healthier for me to remain Keto 100% and consume cheap “walmart crap” then to ever have my BG spoke ever again. and to me Grain Finished beef tastes better and has a better macro ratio for my needs


(Marc) #22

By saying that grass-fed is better than grain-fed and pointing out why is not disrespecting their choice. It is only pointing out why grass-fed may be better, and why somebody may chose to eat that way.

I respect the choice of my diabetic in-laws to live as they do; that is paramount.


#23

Pardon me, @valdivia.marc, but what does your Diabetic In-laws have to do with grass fed meat?

Help me understand the connection between grass fed meat and diabetes.


(Marc) #24

I point out that eating low-carb is healthier than eating high carb by sending them articles and telling them why eating low carb is better (Don’t worry Fiorella, I only do it every couple of years). They look at me as clueless and harming myself.

I try to point out why grass-fed meat is better than grain-fed by citing articles.

I’m not saying one should eat grass-fed all the time. I can’t afford to eat grass-fed, pastured eggs, etc all the time. I get it when I can. I think, however, that it is better for me. Also, I think the quality of produce is a point worth raising. If I could afford to eat that way all the time, I would.


#25

YES! Eating organic, grass fed, etc. is great but it is (unfortunately) a luxury many can NOT afford. It irks me to see people say you must eat grass fed this and massaged with fine oils by nubile virgins that (OK made that bit up!). Great if you can but KCKO if you can’t. Keto is NOT elitist.


(Meeping up the Science!) #26

You can supplement many of the things grain-fed cattle has. Of course, I’d argue it’s best to buy better quality food whenever possible regardless of what way you eat, keto or not, as food quality has a huge impact on health.

That said, from a purely biochemical perspective, while the Omega 3 profile in grass-fed beef is better to regular beef (the main benefit health wise, though there are others) that can be supplemented. Most deficiencies in nutrition can be supplemented, which is why rarely are there people who are iodine deficient, have scurvy, or beriberi in modern America. And yes, it’s always better to get it from food, however, that begs the question:

Is it ideal to supplement versus naturally ingest? Ehhh. You can throw science back and forth on that for a while.

In the end macronutrient choice matters the most. If you can eat high quality food, go for it, however what macronutrients you consume are far more vital for overall health. The rest is optimizing. That’s not bad, certainly, and if I made more money I would absolutely eat all grass-fed all the time. However, whether or not it actually adds years to your life is another question, entirely, and one we are unable to answer as we have no data. We can only make inferences from existing data sets about related issues.


#27

Yeah, I completely understand. Learning how to deliver the message in simple ways is tricky.

But, give yourself a pat on the back…as you do take care of yourself. Bravo! So, be happy in the wonderful gift of health you give yourself each day. :smiley:

Keep calm and keto on!