Newbie with questions as prolific as bacon in a Keto diet!

(Wendy) #41

Finally got to watch the videos. The second one was pretty long but I got a lot out of it. Thank you for sharing.
I hope the message gets out that we need enough protein and don’t fear real foods and avoid the fake foods that permeate our culture.

(mole person) #42

It’s the Quest Bar. You really want to ditch that if you can. It’s taking a FULL third of your protein macros for the day in a tiny under 200 calorie snack. Also, you absolutely cannot trust the carb count on processed foods. I’m seeing 20g of total carbs for which they are assigning 14 to fiber. Don’t believe that. My recommendation, and one I see a lot here is this, if the food is processed then count the total carbs toward your carb macro INSTEAD of the net and if it won’t fit, ditch the item. I bet you anything that Quest bar, if you are having it regularly, is a source of trouble for you.

Here is another thing that might help. Try not to eat any meal that has more grams of protein than fat. If ditching the Quest bar still doesn’t help enough with the protein macro then I recommend allocating a reasonable number like 25 grams to you dinner meal and trying to keep yourself limited to the other 40 before that.

And trust me, it really does all become easier as you learn to eat this way. I’ve got a measly 47g protein allocation and I’m able to mostly keep close to it. But I don’t knock myself out if I go over by a few grams or ten some days. :smiley:

(Jackie Blue) #43

I actually almost never eat these bars. I don’t like them very much. It says cookie dough, but it tastes like sweet boogers. I was just out all day yesterday and nowhere near food and it was in my backpack. Hubby eats them daily, tho - and they sren’t A problem for him. Altho, maybe he would be losing more if he wasn’t!

here’s my update for today: I got up this morning and had an avocado and then rode my bike down the very steep small mountain we live on and back up to take my youngest to school. We’ve lived here 4 years now and I have never, I mean EVER made it back up this steep grade without snot and sweat everywhere. When I pull into my driveway, i’m ready to barf and almost hyperventialating. It took me
6 weeks of daily riding to even get up the road all the way without stopping when we first moved here.

i’ve Only been riding it again since school started about 20 days ago and today it was a breeze! I didn’t break a sweat, didn’t pant, nothing!! It wasn’t even a workout for me!!! This ride normally wipes me out for the rest of the day. This is HUGE! This one benefit (okay, 2: energy and stamina) alone makes this diet worth it, even if I never lose a pound.

I also realized you guys might be right about the fake sugar. I ate the avocado before my ride at 8:20am. That’s all I had. I wasn’t even remotely hungry yet at 10:30. Then I took a drink of hubby’s Powerade zero and I was STARVING. I already gave up chai tea cold turkey, any sweet drinks with fake sugar are the next to go!

I have one more question for hubby, tho! He’s always been a big coffeee drinker and had the normal molerat discolored teeth from It, nothing noteworthy. About a week into Keto, his teeth look like he went out and raked up the dog run - with his mouth. Like shockingly brown stains in all the spaces and grooves of his front teeth. He’s not OCD like I am about dental care, but it appears to truly be adhering to the tooth surfaces and not just the small areas of plaque waiting for hubby’s next dental cleaning in Dec. Anybody know what’s up with that? Can going Keto change the alkalinity of your GI system and change the PH in your mouth so you’re more prone to stains? Or can my husband have suddenly developed a craving for dog chunklets and is too embarrassed to admit it?

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #44

Dairy could be holding you back. Some folks don’t process it well.
Your hormonal experiences seem within the realm of the expected.
Body composition definitely plays a role. Hormonal soup does as well. Men lose faster because we generally have more to lose (taller, more body), and have some advantages (better hormonal soup, fewer thyroid problems, all that). You’ve as much as said that he has a lot to lose and you don’t.

There is no fat macro. Fat is to fill out the calories. Drop the fat bomb mousse and just eat real food.

#45

That’s wonderful, Jackie! Now always keep this in mind when you start to get discouraged.

You know this, how?
Never mind, I probably don’t want to know.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #46

INFP here, and reveling in my P-ness! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

#47

Are you really an “F”? I never would have guessed! You seem so “T”. :rofl:

#48

We do have some standards around here, Paul :wink:

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #49

What is the point of the protein bar? Why not eat some real food instead?

Also, given that the recommendations for protein intake range from 0.8 to 2.0 grams per kilo of lean body mass, I suspect you could probably increase your protein intake without detriment.

Moreover, 1300 calories might be a bit low for you. When you had the app calculate your macros, did you select “Maintenance”? If not, try that and see where it gets you. You should be able to eat fat to satiety and let your body determine when it has enough energy. Hunger is a definite sign that the body thinks it’s not getting enough.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #50

Really? Where? LOLOLOLOL! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

(mole person) #51

It sucks but many of us can’t eat the same as our dear hubbies and get the same results. Mine goes to McDonald’s twice a week for a big cheeseburger and his maintenance weight is not affected, while if I have a few extra tablespoons of cream a week I will begin to slowly creep up.

They are different for loads of reasons, but hormones will definitely be one of them. But size will be a big one too. A Quest bar is 1/3 of your protein but probably 1/5 of your husbands, right? He may also be more carb tolerant then you. But also, as you’ve said, he has more to lose. He may be fine eating Quest bars daily for now but 30 lbs down the road that may no longer be true for him either.

Congrats on the NSV! They are the best part of this way of eating for me too. The weight loss, although what I originally was after, is just the icing on a much larger cake (almond flour, of course!).

With respect to the dental issue, I’ve not heard anyone complain of that and my own experience is actually the opposite and I drink about six cups of coffee a day. My husband tells me my teeth are whiter and I’m definitely no longer getting any plaque build up at all.

(Running from stupidity) #52

If only there were truth in advertising laws!

Well, anything is possible. You can’t trust men, that’s for sure.

Seriously, it doesn’t matter what sort of emoji you use after a statement like that…

#53

LOL! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You’re right. I must have been thinking of another forum. :grin:

My bad.

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #54

Oh, I forgot. In addition to dropping the fat bomb and eating real food, drop the protein bar. Eat real food.

Please note: her fat bomb is a sugar free pudding thinned out with heavy whipping cream. Sugar free pudding, despite what Bill Cosby might’ve said, is not a real food.

(Jackie Blue) #55

Oh, my. This is a very cozy forum, isn’t it?

(Running from stupidity) #57

Depends who you ask, at times :slight_smile:

(Jackie Blue) #58

You know this, how?
Never mind, I probably don’t want to know.
~ it was a grisly Neti pot accident. You’re right, you don’t want to know.

(Jackie Blue) #59

I was referring to Darren, who shares that he likes to revel in his “P-ness”.
Definitely not referring to the Chef, who is highly disainful of my sweet booger bars.
Don’t be alarmed, folks- I promise it’s not a mainstay of my diet. I run a crew of my teen sons and their buddies doing heavy labor yard jobs on weekends and we were stuck on a farm while they were pulling out fenceposts and I was starving and there it was, laying in my backpack all helpless and vulnerable.

(Jackie Blue) #60

I do think the calories are too low! I Consistently go 200-500 over. I will have to try switching to ‘maintenance’, to see if it changes much.

(Running from stupidity) #61

Indeed, but my statement still stands. People keep posting saying it’s a “mean” forum, but none of them will quote the posts that triggered them.