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(Chris ) #1

Question: I’ve done “primal” for years and always hit a plateau. I’m now trying keto.

I can make this work 6 days a week. But I have five kids, and we have pizza night on Fridays. Now, it’s the “Against the Grain” pizza, so the crust is just cheese and tapioca flour. And there’s loads of cheese on top. So while it’s grain free and gluten free, it is high in carbs.

If I eat one meal of this, once a week, will I still loose weight?


(VLC.MD) #2

Maybe.
Probably not.
I wouldn’t risk it.
YMMV.

Preplanning a cheat day ?
Sounds like you aren’t ready to go for Ketogenic weight loss.
If you aren’t in a rush to lose weight … try it and report back !


(Chris ) #3

Thanks. I do indeed want to lose weight. I also have a family responsibility and family morale, for one meal out of 21 meals a week. I am also Catholic and don’t eat meat on Fridays.

I’m going to try it. Frankly, if one meal a week wrecks weight loss on keto, then it’s not for me. Frankly, I would think it’s not for anyone, as anything that rigid is doomed to fail for basically all but 1%. But I’ll try it for a month and see how it goes. If anything, I’ll still be eating extremely low carb all week, and will still lose weight.


(Donna ) #4

So the Friday pizza is a cheese pizza? You could make yourself a special LC pizza, so you are still eating WITH your family.

Or, do you still eat fish on Fridays? Really, if I were you, I’d make myself some tuna fish salad and sit with my family and enjoy their company. Everyone doesn’t have to eat exactly the same thing to enjoy each other. If you don’t make it a big deal, they probably won’t even care. (I’ve ate LC for 4 1/2 years while the rest of my family didn’t.)

Maybe do some more research into the health benefits of Keto, so you won’t feel deprived? The pizza crust isn’t good for you. The sugar in the pizza sauce isn’t good for you. Maybe if you looked at it as something you were doing FOR yourself, instead of TO yourself.

Keto can (should!) be decadent and very satisfying. It’s great food!

Wishing you abundant health.

KCKO


(G. Andrew Duthie) #5

I am also a keto Catholic and observe Friday abstinence.

My go to foods are cheese, nuts, and tuna salad. And I also often fast on Fridays.

Friday abstinence needn’t be a bar to going full keto.


(Chris ) #6

Thanks! Glad to hear there’s more than 1 of us left :slight_smile:

As my first post stated, it’s really not the meat. We just have a large family (5 kids and one on the way) and we have done a gluten/grain free pizza night since most of them were born. It’s a tradition I’m just not going to break. I really just want to know how badly it’ll wreck my weight loss. I hear completely different opinions by other keto experts.


(Chris ) #7

Thanks Donna. It’s a cheese pizza, and the crust is made of cheese and tapioca flour, so it’s gluten free and grain free. It’s just high in carbs.

It’s not just the kids wanting me to eat pizza, which they do. I know myself. I’ve done these types of lifestyle diets for years, including paleo. And I know, if it requires I never, ever break it, it’s over. I have great will power, and I know I can eat 20 out of 21 perfect meals a week. But this one I’m sticking with. I’m just curious what eating more carbs for one meal a week will do.


(CharleyD) #8

Would you be willing to try an almond flour based crust? Like make one as a treat one to see how the kids like it? I’ve eaten whole fathead pizzas and I consider it worth it to gain a pound that day, hah.

I would hesitate to use the term wrecked, but that day you go over 20-50g of carbs (depending on your metabolic flexibility) will likely not lose much if anything. It may be a good idea to fast on Saturday to get back to it.


(Donna ) #9

Well, you won’t know until you try. Keep us posted! :slight_smile:


(OM) #10

Keto is way to change how your body works. The goal is to teach your body to produce ketones from fat, and learn how to use those for energy so that it has fuel all the time from your fat reserves, not just when you eat.
If you eat carbs, especially in the first months of keto while the body is still learning and adapting, it will slow down your progress. It will be harder to learn to use the fat, if you keep providing an alternative source of fuel.


(Chris ) #11

We ate almond flour pizzas for years. But my wife and kids got sick of them. I may try the fat head but with as many kids as we have having one pizza crust already made for us, so all we have to make is the sauce, is huge. We cook everything from scratch and don’t even own a microwave, so having just one thing a week out of a box is a life saver.


(Brian) #12

There is no reason to abandon your Friday night pizza. Just make a pizza that is low carb that you can eat guilt free.

There are a lot of different recipes for keto pizza out there. Try the ones you think might work and see how you like them. You can often put quite a variety of toppings on them to keep them keto.

At least give it a try before throwing in the towel on keto. You might be surprised at how good some of those keto pizzas are!


(Ren) #13

Have you thought about doing cauliflower crust or a fathead pizza crust for your pizza dinners? Both are delicious and low carb.


(Chris ) #14

definitely not cauliflower. My mother’s italian, ain’t going there! Maybe will try fathead. Although if it takes making the crust probably won’t. 5 kids, one on the way. This is the one “easy” meal we get a week.


(mike) #15

@PugsDigMusic, said it best. Try it and find out. I’m keto 6 days a week most of the time, and if I want to I can lose weight. It’s different for each person. FatHead pizzas are awesome and take a very little amount of prep time.


(Ren) #16

Well if you want to do the out of the box pizza crust, have at it. Sounds like you are set on this meal. Eat that 1 meal out of 21 and see how your weight loss goes.


(Chris ) #17

Yes, I am. What I hoped to find out with this post is what happens on keto?

Primal/paleo will tell you it’s an 80/20 day, just get right back to the diet and you’ll be fine. But what about keto? Some say it’ll hurt you forever (!) and some say it’ll actually help you reset and lose more weight.

I’d also love to know, for example, the next day after this meal. My thought is to fast until lunch the next day. Or would it be better to eat some fat bombs in the morning and not fast? I really don’t know.


(CharleyD) #18

Oh definitely. Understand fully!


(CharleyD) #19

Both are fine tactics for the day after. If you go into it expecting to experience carb cravings the day after can help to make them not that scary. I’ve had 2 cheat days this year since I’ve started, on my 40th birthday cause a dear friend baked me a cake, and then on my boy’s 6th birthday at a local giant milkshake shop. (wife was very much against me not having a cheat day on Max’s birthday)

I felt meh the rest of that day but bacon and eggs the morning after set me back on track easy peasy.


(Brian) #20

Just outta curiosity, just how many carbs are we talking about at that one meal? Maybe a little context would help.(?)

If it’s huge, it’s quite likely to interfere with keto. If it’s not that big, it may be closer to a tempest in a teapot.