Need more ketones?


#1

I’m new to keto (about 3 weeks) and my ketone meter reads usually .7
Sometimes it’s just slightly more but under 1.0

Is there any point to trying to get a higher ketone reading? I"m very fit and active,so I understand my body could be using them and that’s why they’re not high?

I’m experiencing many positive effects of ketosis but I am still pretty hungry so I’m not yet fully fat adapted it seems
Insight? Thanks


#2

Anything above a 0.3 means you’re in ketosis. Maybe you could try fasting if you want a boost in numbers, but you’re already in it. :slight_smile:


(Brian) #3

From what I’ve been told, higher numbers don’t add anything to ketosis. You’re either in ketosis or you’re not.

I’m sure others will correct me if I’m wrong.


#4

Thanks. No fasting for me unless and until the hunger dissipates to where I don’t want food. I like eating, not fasting :slight_smile:


(Vincent Hall) #5

Higher ketone readings just mean you’re not not burning them quite as efficiently yet. No need to chase a surplus.
KCKO
\v/


#6

Even not being adapted you really shouldn’t be hungry after 3 weeks, are you eating enough, and is enough of that fat?


#7

I’m hungry in a different way - it’s more, shall we say…cooperative. When I ate lower fat/higher carb my hunger would DEMAND answers lol. Now I feel it, but it can wait. But I do feel it for breakfast, lunch and dinner so far. I removed my usual 10am snack today and was fine until lunch at which time I was super hungry

I am eating a lot of fat which leads me to believe it’s a lot of calories, but maybe I just need more. For example
2 coffees with 1T coconut oil and 1t heavy whipping cream each
B- pastured pork roast off the bone with ghee
1 slice of bacon
1T almond butter and 1/4 c coconut milk
Still hungry so 1T coconut butter

L - 1 packet of seaweed
1/2 avocado
3oz ground beef, dried mushrooms and a lot of olive oil
2 slices bacon
1 large mug (2c) homemade bone broth with 1 1- 1.5 T grass fed butter

I am 5’2" female, 112 lbs about 20% BF and I did an hour long incline walk/slow jog this a.m. (4 miles) and 10 mins of abs. I lift regularly and have a fair amount of muscle for a small lady. Do you think that’s enough food? I’m pretty full now still from lunch 3 hours ago and this is more than I usually eat.
thanks


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #8

The guideline is that we need about 0.8 to 1.0 grams per kilo of lean body mass a day of protein, a bit more if lifting weights, etc. We want enough protein to prevent the wasting of lean tissue without going overboard (too much protein can be as unhealthy as too little, apparently). Then, if we are limiting our carbohydrate intake suffficiently (the level varies from person to person, but is generally under about 100 grams a day, much less than that for some of us), our bodies will minimize the production of glucose and we will be able to metabolize both the fat in our diet and the fat in our fat cells. There is no need to count calories; simply eat fat to satiety. Most people who do this will automatically eat a calorie level that provides the body with abundant energy while allowing the body to metabolize its fat stores.

Dr. Phinney says that women who have consistently skimped on calories over the years often find that their bodies want to put on lean tissue when they go keto, and this can be highly confusing, since the scale might not appear to move very much. In one of his lectures he mentions a study participant who only lost 20 pounds when all the other participants lost 40, but it turned out that she had indeed lost 40 pounds of fat, but had simultaneously gained 20 pounds of muscle. He advises women in particular to go by their waist size and such, rather than by poundage lost.