My six week ketogenic diet experiment

(barrytspencer) #1

Hopefully the right area for this thread

Interesting read

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4127938.htm

(matt ) #2

Moving to Resouces: news

(Richard Morris) #3

I love that DurianRider pops in to give his expert advice that there is no way that a girl could put on lean body mass

Durianrider - 17 Nov 2014 11:35:00pm
This ABC reporter claims to have put on ‘4kg of muscle in only 6 weeks!’.
Um, not even girls on steroids can put that much muscle on.
Ive been a PT since 1999. Extensive knowledge of anabolic steroid use amongst athletes.
Look up ‘Banana Girl’ on youtube. She is pure carb focused with one incredible body and mid 30’s.

And then Steve Phinney :phinney: drops in to “Show him the Science”

steve phinney - 08 Dec 2014 1:11:47pm
Based upon textbook average (mean) changes in body composition with drugs or resistance training, your protest seems to be right on. However within objective science, we classify anything within 2 standard deviations of the mean as ‘normal’. In this context, if a woman has previously tried to limit weight gain by restricting both fat and energy, that typically translates to eating less total protein. Restricting energy and protein results in loss of lean body mass. Far from being theoretical, I published a study in 1988 (Phinney et al, Metabolism. 37:758-65) in which one of 12 women locked in a metabolic ward and given a moderate protein ketogenic diet with less than 1000 kcal per day experienced far less than the expected weight loss. Using meticulous nitrogen balance testing, this woman was found to have gained 7 lbs (ie, > 3 kg) of lean body mass in 5 weeks. And yes, she had previously been restricting fat and thus protein for the previous year. In this context, Ms. Lawrence’s observation that she could have gained 4 kg of lean body mass in 6 weeks is wholly credible, and well within the range of a ‘normal response’ to this diet.

BTW: Dr Phinneys point is interesting, if you don’t eat enough fat (calorically restrict) you can lose lean body mass, but if you have adequate calories you can increase LBM.

Exercise and weight gain: stop worrying
(barrytspencer) #4

Durianrider always reminds me of a condom name

(Candy Lind) #5

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