Most powerful anticarcinogens and antioxidants in the world

(KCKO, KCFO) #4

What is the source of this information? Are there studies quoted to back up any of these claims?

Chaga is a nice tea, but not sure if I would trust it to kill cancer. It grows in Alaska too and is used by the natives there. I brought some home with me in August.

Mistletoe contains Phoratoxin and Viscotoxin and isn’t something I would be serving to anyone I cared about. There are a lot of them, @1500. Some more poisonous than others, I wouldn’t be taking that chance. Pets really have a hard time when they ingest it, and it is not common for cats and dogs to die from ingesting mistletoe.

(Bunny) #5

There is plenty of information on each!

#6

A supposedly powerful antioxidant/anti-imflammatory that I supplement with is Astaxanthin, a carotenoid found in algae/seafood.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/02/20/astaxanthin-whole-body-benefits.aspx

(Richard Hanson) #7

What would an Eskimo eat? What would a Maasai Warrior eat?

Dietary corollaries of “What would Jesus do?”.

I ordered all kinds of “super” foods to put in my green smoothies, lots of science, and for a couple of weeks I chocked them down every day. Now, I think I would rather spend my food money on bacon, steak, eggs, coconut oil, … a variety of simple high fat foods. Somehow many indigenous peoples managed to eat a largely disease free diet without having any idea at all about double blind clinical studies.

Keto for Life,
Richard

(Chris) #8

Well put.

Of course it won’t help if you still get cancer, but we have some partially effective treatments that can help.

(Clare) #9

interestingly, I began taking a red krill oil supplement a couple of months ago because I had a bit of a sticky knee - middle age + sudden interest in exercise = some unintended creaking.
It worked a treat and I’ve stuck with it - but, even more interestingly, I noticed an improvement in my eyesight.
I’ve been astigmatic for about 25 years and that’s relatively stable for years now but I’d started to also find it difficult to read in low light and had acquired some attractive magnifiers.
Well, that’s reversed itself somewhat and I’m also now able to read and use a screen in my contact lenses - which was an issue before.
As nothing else had changed in my diet, I wondered if the krill might be responsible and discovered that the Astaxanthin in it has been shown to help with vision.
I wasn’t expecting it - I wasn’t taking it for that, but I’m so impressed with the improvement, I’ve decided to try taking a little more and so I’m adding a pure astaxanathin gel to my morning lipid breakfast.

I’m not one for vitamin pills usually - but this has been remarkable.

(Ken) #10

I’d argue the most powerfull effect is achieved by glucagon secretion. It’s much better than a list of semi mythical “Super foods”.

(Clare) #11

I’ve been keto for two and half years and I wasn’t diabetic. So I don’t think it’s related to the spontaneous improvement in my vision of the last few weeks. That tracks to about 3 weeks after starting on the krill oil.

(Bunny) #12

This is just from memory but here is an interesting story:

During WW II (English or U.S.) fighter pilots would eat Bilberries off of Bilberry Bushes that grew on the the sides of the tarmac or runway because they claimed it gave them night vision or the ability to see in the dark which helped them excute missions with more accuracy such as spotting enemy targets!

Bilberry Extract helps with micro circulation (the little teeny tiny blood vessels that go to your eyes, skin and internal organs; especially the brain) much like Grape Seed Extract which must effect the eyes some how!

Some research on Bilberries:

University of Maryland Medical Center. “Bilberry” URL: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/bilberry-000225.htm

A, Cignarella, et. al. “Novel lipid-lowering properties of Vaccinium myrtillus L. leaves, a traditional antidiabetic treatment, in several models of rat dyslipidaemia: a comparison with ciprofibrate.” URL: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049384896001958

Chu, Wing-Kwan “Bilberry” Herbal Medicine: Biomolecular and Clinical Aspects. 2nd edition URL: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK92770/

Takikawa, Masahito. “Dietary Anthocyanin-Rich Bilberry Extract Ameliorates Hyperglycemia and Insulin Sensitivity via Activation of AMP-Activated Protein Kinase in Diabetic Mice” URL: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/140/3/527.short

Ichiyanagi, Takashi. “Bioavailability and Tissue Distribution of Anthocyanins in Bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus L.) Extract in Rats” URL: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf0602370

Canter, Peter H. “Anthocyanosides of Vaccinium myrtillus (Bilberry) for Night Vision—A Systematic Review of Placebo-Controlled Trials” URL: http://www.surveyophthalmol.com/article/S0039-6257(03)00128-0/abstract

(Clare) #13

The only thing you have to watch with WW2 pilot eyesight stories, is that a lot of them were a tad embellished to stop the Germans from finding out we had RADAR. :wink:

#14

I do not know about krill oil but I know my cod liver oil pills (which I never take but mean to!) have Vitamin A which is supposed to help you see better, maybe that is the reason

(Clare) #15

No - it’s very specifically the Astaxanthin that’s meant to be the benefit.

(Bunny) #16

May have been WWI before radar was used, just not sure which WW?

Lol

(Clare) #17

there were a lot of tall tales about carrots etc, I know that. :wink:

(Consensus is Politics) #18

And it could very well be that they were just deficient in Vitamin A or whatever a bilberry my contribute. Perhaps just getting a little more of something that should have been in their diet, of fish, French fries, and peas, was enough to have near miraculous effects. I for one loved fish and chips when I lived in England. The rest of the food not so much. Very bland for the most part.

Something I noticed when getting groceries at a grocery store there. There were aisles lined both sides with each fish, chips (French fries) and peas. That’s three entire aisles both sides dedicated to a staple of diet.

(mole person) #19

I know this is an ancient post, but I’d be grateful if you could expound on this. How are glucagon secretions anti cancer?

(Ken) #20

Glucagon secretions means you"re following fat based nutrition, rather than eating carbs.

(mole person) #21

And from this you get to anti-cancer via what pathway…lower inflammation, less oxidative stress, reduced cell division, or something else? I’d really like to explore this but I don’t know where to begin.

(Bunny) #22

Some cancers can even live on glucagon!

Question: Cancer cells can orchestrate metabolic reprogramming by altering the uptake and catabolism of nutrients, enabling them to maintain proliferative capacity, conferring resistance to oxidative stress, and promoting the evasion of immune-mediated destruction, however, glucose only supplies a carbon source for biosynthesis; it cannot supply the amino acids and glutathione that rapidly proliferating cancer cells require for the synthesis of nucleic acids?

So if cancer cells require a carbon base for biosynthesis then what? It still requires the carbon from sugar and take away the sugar and you get pro-apoptotic activity?

There is a difference between what cancer cells can metabolize and catabolise as nutrients and what makes cancer cells proliferate?

References:

  1. A Nine-Year Collaboration Has Just Shown How Sugar Influences Cancer Cell Growth
  1. In health news… Cancer cells get their energy to multiply through fermentation. In an attempt to prevent them doing that, a team of Korean researchers are developing new cancer treatment methods that restrain the fermentation process. Park Se young has the story. Beer is made of wheat or barley, and yeast converts the glucose in the wort to alcohol. This fermentation process is carried out in the absence of oxygen. Cancer cells use the same process to produce energy. Without using oxygen, cancer cells convert sugar into lactic acid. Healthy human cells produce energy using oxygen through respiration. Oxygen based metabolism produces more energy but the cost to produce molecules for respiration are twice those needed to ferment glucose. Also, the byproducts from the fermentation process can be used to form cancer cells during research …making the method even more cost effective. This study could even have implications in identifying potential targets in treating cancer. ″If we block the metabolism of cancer cells in collaboration with existing anti-cancer drugs, it will boost their effectiveness. Fermentation does not only occur in foods and drinks such as Kimchi and beer, it may even provide a new strategy to treat cancer. Park Se young - Arirang News.
  1. “… Research indicates that as the length of time between the application of sulfur in the vineyard and harvest increases, the impact on fermentation declines. …” …More Hmmmmmm?
  1. “…The specific mechanisms by which MSM does its work on cancer are still being studied. However, many health experts point to its ability to rid the body of lactic acid in the bloodstream (thus changing the environment where cancer cells thrive). They also note its presence as an anti-microbial. These are thought to be two possible reasons why MSM alone can sometimes be effective against cancer. …” …More Hmmmmm?
  1. “… When something seems stupid, but happens anyways, it’s usually us who are stupid for not understanding. So we need to try to understand it rather than dismissing it as a freak of nature. …” - Dr. Jason Fung The Paradox of Cancer’s Warburg Effect
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(Ken) #23

Less suppression of the immune system. Considering the carb based diet leads to immunosuppression and cancer, or many of the types, that thrive on the carb based diet. I was obviously speaking in very broad terms, equating glucagon secretion with fat based nutrition.

Much of Cancer is directly related to immunosuppression.