Lost in Ketogenic Diet

(Haidy Makram Ebeid) #30

Is that you Khara?

Well I hope I’m learning fast and I like the idea of snacking of cheese instead of cucumber but what if I’m still hungry after I had all what I should eat.
Shall I still snack on cheese or try to forget it and not eat anything?

#31

Yes that is pretty much it. Go to IntensiveDietaryManagement.com and read up on fasting, he explains it much better than I can. There is also a topic here on fasting.

You drink plenty of water, you supplement with salt and possibly magnesium and potassium. You can drink black coffee or tea. Some people add a small amount of HWC or coconut oil or butter to their coffee. There is disagreement as to whether that is a good idea or not in terms of ruining the fast. A fast can be 24 hours, for example from dinner on Sunday to dinner on Monday. If you skip Monday dinner you get to 36 hours. I am on the end of Day 3 of a fast currently. Hoping to make it another 48 hours. Hunger usually goes away after the first or second day. I know it sounds crazy but it is very easy. I mostly either do not feel hungry or the way you do an hour before lunch, like you could eat but you do not have to. I generally do put a little HWC or Coconut oil in my coffee. Some people also drink bone broth with or without shiritaki noodles as part of their fast

(Khara) #32

Well, I don’t worry about what I “should” eat. I just eat when I’m hungry and until satisfied. Early on especially, while adapting, I craved extra food and so I had cheese quite a bit. It seemed to be what I needed. So if still hungry after having your meal that includes adequate protein, have some fat. Cheese, heavy cream in coffee…
As for the fasting, I think there’s differing opinions on when best to start this. I personally didn’t start fasting until I had been fat adapted for a while (I think a couple or few months) and it just happened naturally where I wasn’t hungry so I just skipped a meal. I liked getting started with it this way because there was no hunger discomfort. I have not yet done any extended fasts but am just right now getting started with that.
I know it can be confusing but hopefully all these comments are helping. And don’t fret, you’ll learn as you go! Best wishes.

(Haidy Makram Ebeid) #33

I’m trying not to fret :see_no_evil:
And I’m definitely getting the whole thing from these marriages but I’ve as well read few posts of people that gained 6lb while on keto not sure what they did wrong but I believe they mentioned something about salt!!!

(Khara) #34

Keep in mind that the scale can be very deceiving. Weight can fluctuate several pounds due to hydration and hormones. You can also build lean mass while losing fat at the same time which can cause the scale to show no movement. I’m not familiar with salt being an issue unless people think they are retaining water due to salt intake. It’s been my experience and many people here that water retention is considerably worse when eating carbs and is remedied with Keto. So, if you haven’t done so already, take some before measurements and also take some pictures. I also like to find a piece of clothing that I can use as a measurement for example a pair of jeans that I can just barely get pulled up but cannot zip or button. In a month I can try them on and, most likely they’ll fit a bit easier. Check your progress based on how you feel, how your clothes fit, and your measurements more so than by using the scale.

(Khara) #35

This video is great! Great visual explanation of fat loss on Keto and she cracks me up!

(Haidy Makram Ebeid) #36

LOOOool I meant messages not marriages

(Haidy Makram Ebeid) #37

Hahaha I love her already
She is hilarious
And she certainly explained in an amazing way
And I’m a good listener, I will follow what you both said and I won’t scale myself and will use my clothes instead
That was super informative and useful
Thanks a lot

(Carpe salata!) #38

It’s an interesting concept, but if the fat cells are filling with equivalent water wouldn’t the clothes fitting be unchanged as well as the weight? Maybe water weighs more than fat.
Anyway, keto works.

#39

I lost a lot from April to June and early July. While people noticed they did not notice as much as they do now. Meanwhile I only lost about 5 lbs since mid July. However a pair of pants that I could not even pull up in June now close on me and can be worn. Of course they are 10 years out of style!

I started fasting before I started Keto (ate moderate carbs, no grains before) and it was so easy that I moved on to keto. However, fasts after I started keto were harder until I learned to feast on fat before the fast

(Khara) #40

Ya, that’s what she’s saying! We might think we aren’t making any progress cause the scale says the same and the clothes fit the same but really we have made progress as the fat cells are just inflated with water or at least part water. Then all of a sudden it wooshes out! Overnight you see a change on the scale and in how clothes fit and in how you look. It is the weirdest thing! But also pretty cool!

(Haidy Makram Ebeid) #41

I’m learning a lot
I’m trying to keep up with the keto flu
And trying to avoid even seeing carbs looool

#42

I love this post, testimonial of keto and fasting to get you to that happy place! Thank you for sharing this!!!

(Haidy Makram Ebeid) #43

I’m in love with it too @Helewisa

(Haidy Makram Ebeid) #44

@KBG yes I’m getting it now
Like the video of that lady with water balloons
It was very helpful for me
Very informative

(Haidy Makram Ebeid) #45

Ohh it doesn’t sound crazy that my old life style I did fast when I was busy but of course I would drink back then coffee or tea all day with milk and sugar
I will try that but when I’m ready for it

(Sharon A Peters) #46

Man, that is as as concise and sweet a “snapshop” of “how to keto” as I’ve yet read. I’m thinking about having it printed up on little cards to give out to answer questions about my crazy WOE … with credit to you, of course. Congrats for the spot-on summary.

(Jennifer) #47

The only thing i would add is don’t force yourself to eat just to meet macros. If you aren’t hungry, don’t eat!

#48

Thank you. I would add what @birddog27 said and would add fish to the fat sources as well. I personally hate fish so it is not something that I think about

(Rachel Rees) #49

I really enjoyed watching that, thanks