Kids eat CRAP

#62

Yes but lawmakers are in large part responsible for the problem. Government sets the dietary standards and those standards are destroying lives.

(Jay AM) #63

Our Easter baskets as kids were usually things like money, outdoor toys, Easter tree decoration pieces, shoes, cups.

(Candy Lind) #64

I am perfectly happy to be responsible for myself, but anything that has become a completely out-of-control health concern (HIV, cocaine, meth, sugar) should be controlled in some fashion by government.

Now, before this degenerates into any more political “marching and bleating,” let’s just agree to disagree on personal liberties vs. public health issues and get back to KCKO.

(Jay AM) #65

You’re at a good age to start healthier stuff. All the food favorites can be made at home and, they love what’s on the parent’s plate a lot. I used to babysit young children and I would keep smaller pieces of food on my plate of what I was eating and they could reach over and grab it for themselves. I found they were far more interested if they could grab off my plate versus it being in front of them. Even little little kids enjoy stirring things. Convincing people a kid willingly ate bits of broccoli? Not as easy.

#66

I disagree. No one ever told me to eat a box of donuts, or two heaping bowls of Rice Crispies smothered in sugar. I did that, and I knew it was crap. Everyone knows that, that type of food is crap, except for small children. They are being poisoned with it as parents offer it up as bribes and treats while they shove their heads deeper into their Ipads and phones. We are responsible.

#67

Personal liberty and freedom created this forum. My personal liberty and freedom found it! I am responsible for myself, my life, how I feel, what I eat, and every action in between. I own it.

#68

I’m not saying we don’t have some personal responsibilty.
I am saying that when you are told that low fat, grains, beans, etc are healthy then it’s a problem. This message has been pumped into our society with government dollars for decades.

Who sets dietary requirements for schools?

Who sets standards for diet in hospitals?

Who doles out grant money?

Who designed the food pyramid/my plate garbage?

When you are being lied to about what is nutritious and you try to eat healthy only to get sick then that’s a problem. What created that problem? Government interference.

Frankly I think they should butt the hell out of our lives on most things but they really need to fix their monumental f’up first.

#69

They all lie, its why only skinny people advertise chocolate, and McDonalds don’t use obese people on their display boards. Its all about money and jobs. Look at how long the sugar industry fought against Stevia!

At the end of the day, we know what makes us fat, and we choose to eat it. Skinny people don’t get off the hook either. They too get diabetes, cancer and strokes. But seriously, shut down the sugar growers and millions would lose jobs. Its a snake forever eating its tail!

#70

:laughing: good point
As for knowing what makes us fat, not always. Candy bars, cola, donuts, yeah any idiot should know that. The insidious part is that so much of what is proclaimed healthy is, in reality, just sugar. Fruit juices, high carb breakfast cereals, bread, etc. Our kids are taught these things are healthy and as a parent I have to spend unecessary amounts of time convincing my kids that their teachers are wrong. My son actually had a teacher tell him sausage was bad because of fat… But they give out candy at school and push low fat/high carb.
I do not want the overbearing arm of big brother telling me what to eat. I do, however want them to quit recommending/requiring the bad stuff.

I thought for years I was doing everything right. I was even a vegetarian for a while. I was a long distance runner, ex military, avoided fast food, low salt, low fat, lots of “healthy whole grains”. I could find tons of books and things backing up my “healthy” choices but none of that did me any good when I began to develop problems that I should not have had.

(Karl) #71

Most people don’t have that level of personal individuality. It’s a herd mentality.

You’re the exception, not the rule.

#72

Those of us here have the leisure time, internet access, subject interest, curiosity, willingness to swim against the tide, ability to question conventional thinking, willingness to educate ourselves, and willingness to be seen to be different and resist social and family pressure.

That makes us a small minority.

#73

Perhaps the government should just get the heck out of the picture then and stop sticking their nose into matters that shouldn’t concern them. The beautiful part about our capitalist country is that if the politics were removed there would be room for business to sell the kinds of food we prefer. If they’d keep their greedy hands out of our scientific field, then there wouldn’t be any issue with getting the good science to more people. Unfortunately, this ain’t a perfect world and everyone has an agenda. However, asking for big brother to step in is only going to create a bigger mess. I don’t need to be taxed on buying junk food, which is ultimately what the response would be, I need the availability of other foods to be sold. This would require government to shut up and get out of the way altogether. My two cents.

#74

This is pretty much what I meant. Unfortunately too much of our populace has been conditioned to seek gov solutions to everything no matter how intrusive to individual liberty.

Oh, as for taxing junk food, does anyone really believe that’s to help people? Ha! It’s just another way to fleece the populace while appearing benevolent.

(GINA ) #75

Let us not forget that the government subsidizes corn, rice, and wheat (and to a lesser extent, other crops like dairy and sugar) with our tax dollars.

Those cheap commodities are turned into processed food, then the federal government prescribes the purchase of such foods to schools serving poor children, hospitals, prisons, the military… anyone that must adhere to government nutrition guidelines.

And still people call for a tax on these items so the public won’t want to buy them.

#76

Yep, it’s a great big incestuous pool of filth. Whenever a politician tries to do something the agra or processed garbage industry threatens to cut off the $ to said politician or party. It happens every time.

This will have to be a groundswell. Change will never come from D.C. It must start with us in our families and communities, as our voices get louder and more people catch on, then, and only then will anything happen in D.C. or London or wherever.

Unfortunately faux-activism is very popular right now so it’ll be difficult to be heard over the chatter.

(Sophie) #77

Sometimes I think the only real vote I have that actually counts is with my Dollars and how I elect to spend them.

#78

You are exactly right.

“If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”

-Mark Twain (supposedly)

(Karen) #79

Lololol. God bless Mark Twain, such a grounded fella.

K

#80

Yep, the smaller the government the better! Although you can understand why food laws are stricter in Socialist, BIG government European countries. The government pays the health bill, and they need to reduce it drastically, or they will be on health insurance like America, so they go after the food industry to improve things. Fine if you like paying for everyone else’s healthcare, but I don’t!

(Karen) #81

Hmmm government in the health care business…