Keto-phrenia instead of Keto-flu? 😂

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(E.C.) #1

Hi! I’m E.C. A total n00b so I will likely post a lot of slightly insecure, random and out-there questions as I learn more and more about the ketogenic diet.

One thing I wanted to ask regarding the first few days. I’m currently on day 3.

Whilst I’m not feeling to drab (apart from a headache this morning that subsided after breakfast, and a bit of a space cadet-y feeling, and some hardcore morning irritability, which I think actually all isn’t too bad as I had been very low carb just not high fat for some time leading up to starting anyway) - I am finding myself positively manic during the day. Come mid morning when the grumps have worn off, I’m peaking!

Like, I’m talking to myself out loud, like a freak :joy: I have energy (which I’m not used to) but also this unrelenting sense of mind racing/mouth racing/hyper kind of thought/talk process.

Did anyone else find that instead of cloudiness they instead had this similar mania?

Thanks in advance!

E.C.

#2

Hi! Is it a feeling of restlessness? Sometimes I get this feeling like I want to start jumping and running all over the place. It’s like my muscles are on fire and I need to move somehow. I’ve later learnt that it could be I have a magnesium deficiency and taking that supplement and water helps.

Sorry if this is not at all what you’re feeling and I hope you find the source!

Bebi

(E.C.) #3

Not so much physical as mental here I think.

I’m feeling overly social and chatty, and my mind is running a million miles a minute lol, hence the description of “mania”. I don’t have manic episodes ordinarily, I do have mental health issues I have proactively managed and stabilised over the years, but I’ve never been one to be manic, usually the opposite, depressed or demotivated, so I’m probably feeling it more than the usual person :joy:

I feel like I have a massive caffeine buzz if you know what I mean, yet haven’t hit the coffee hard today lol :laughing: Sorry that is the best way I can describe it.

I did have a short burst of tidy-up-the-kitchen-in-a-flurry earlier but yeah, no muscle burn here… Just awkwardly perky haha!

#4

I know people do get that keto mind buzz. I am yet to really experience it although I have my moments! I would guess that it is your brain adjusting with the rest of your body.

Make sure you are drinking plenty of fluids and getting enough salt. I would also recommend magnesium citrate as it kind of calms things down (as well as other stuff!). I take it for my restless legs and it works a treat so maybe it would just turn your brain down a notch or two!

I would harness this mania though and get shit done! x

(E.C.) #5

I’m also concerned that if I do get to the point of being crazy energetic, and (unlike usual) feel compelled to be active physically, that it’ll freak my body out… At present I legit only exercise weekly. And even then it’s not too intense, it’s surf life saving (mainly body boarding) on a Sunday morning for two hours. I might run about 500 metres max in that time. I’m super unfit, and am overweight, so exercise has felt extremely awkward, and I’ve spent years being carb exhausted so not physically motivated. So am going to have to look into what effect unplanned/new exercise will have on my body anyway, just in case I do, because I know full well if I unexpectedly exert myself physically now (like, an hour trampolining at “Bounce Inc” last week, I can experience hardcore hypoglycaemia :no_mouth:

#6

You could just walk it off? Nice pace but not too strenuous. Or just blast through the housework or gardening etc.

#7

Reading through your postings, I’m getting a sense of you needing not only a physical release but a mental one, too. For example, steep hill hiking or mountain climbing…as you need to occupy your brain and think through the steps. Walking or bouncing I think will just bore and frustrate you, I think (I dunno, it’s a guess). Why not sign up at your local gym or health club to find some tennis/badminton/squash/racquetball partners to play with? Or see what other sports team to join (not the serious hardcore ones, but the social kinds?) It will keep both your mind and body stimulated, as well as the need to socialize and talk. I think your body is actually craving for this sort of stuff. What do you think? Thoughts?

(AnnaLeeThal) #8

I had this feeling of mania at first too. It did settle down and I feel more “normal”, whatever that means. It maybe took a week or so?

(Becky Searls) #9

Finally someone else who describes it as mania! Lol! I felt absolutely manic while adapting. I guess it was better than the alternative of keto flu but it was a bit much for me AND those around me, lol. Hang in here…I’m 3 months in now and my emotional and energy levels have leveled out considerably as my blood glucose has stabilized…good news is, for the most part, the higher energy levels and general feelings of well being have remained, at least for me! Good luck girl!

(Meeping up the Science!) #10

I don’t know that you get mania from keto, however brain function also is altered and many feel surges of energy. Fatigue is neurological as well as physiological.

True mania is disruptive to the point it is frequently life destroying. I’ve never seen anyone exhibit that just from ketogenesis.

You should definitely get an upswing of energy at some point if you’ve been eating the SAD way for some time.

(Joel Abdul) #11

I would say this is normal. I mean, why not? Maybe if you were on some kind of medication I guess you good be feeling too good, or high, kind of like.

I get that hyper feeling when I fast. Which aways throws me off, so I notice it more.

…And as far as the keto flu. I never really felt that. I was low carb, and active before full on keto so I think that helps.

Hey good luck!!

(Becky Searls) #12

Yep I get hyper while fasting too! Makes it hard to sleep!

(Joel Abdul) #13

Crazy you say that. I’m about 40 hrs in a fast and last night was brutal. I should of just got up and washed the car, cleaned bathrooms, went to work, shoveled the driveway, walked the dog…lol