Keto Mojo meter - checking Glucose before breakfast, and Ketones before lunch, ok...?


(Bansaw) #1

I just got my Keto Mojo.
Here’s my plan:
To check my blood glucose before breakfast (i.e. a fasting blood reading)

To check my blood Ketones just before lunch (i.e. I have breakfast at 8:30am, and then check just before lunch which is 12pm.)

Any objections or comments ?


#2

As a T2 diabetic, I no longer test my BG in the morning. Since going keto, I’ve developed “Dawn Phenomenon”. My morning BG reading is often 10 to 20 higher than my nighttime BG, even if I’ve had nothing to eat in between.

My nighttime BG is usually at least 4 hours after I last ate something. Sometimes longer.

Personally, I’ve felt no need to test blood ketones. As long as I keep carbs low, I know I will be in ketosis. And the cost per test ($1.50 last time I looked?) seemed outrageous to me. But I think my BG testing strips are overpriced at $0.19 each. :slight_smile:


(Bob M) #3

I’m not a T2 diabetic, and still have (much) higher blood glucose in the mornings. Mine hits a low around midnight, then goes up all day until about noon, and then goes down all day. Learned this from my Free Style Libre CGM. And I don’t eat breakfast. You might start with two tests of each per day, both in the morning and both in the evening.


(Charlotte) #4

I don’t check my glucose in the morning either because of dawning phenomena as well (around 100), but I’ve had that long before I started keto. I had gestational diabetes when I was prego with my twins and even though i am no longer prediabetic I still have blood sugars that run a little high (around 85-95 2 hours after eating). I wait until noon or at least 2 hours after I eat breakfast and after I fast for a few hours it drops down to mid 70’s. My sugars are always all over the place. Its annoying when I try to achieve a lower GKI. I have to fast for at least 36 hours to hit a 3 or lower. I personally test 2 hours after I eat and before bed. I don’t check my ketones as often anymore since the strips are $1 each test, and my food intake doesn’t vary that much. Experiment and see what works for you though. For me, I wait until after I eat because if I test before and I see high ketones, I don’t want to eat and lower it even when I’m hungry, which defeats the trust I have built up with my body and the ability to listen to what it wants and when.


(Joey) #5

Being new to this keto thing, I still test with a Keto-Mojo device very regularly (at least daily, sometimes more as I continue to learn about my intraday variability). At some point I’ll know enough about my metabolism to lighten up but for now it’s very educational (and encouraging).

To answer your question: I appreciate that glucose in the morning and BHB-ketone readings hours later just before lunch might be of greater interest. But the only drawback to testing glucose and ketones at different times is that you probably can’t make much sense of the “GKI” (Glucose’Ketone Index) that results from the two being measured at the same time - see Keto-Mojo website and other web sites for details.

Is that a big deal? Well, in my case, I found surprisingly high ketone levels in recent days - high enough that I began to worry - that is, until I considered that my glucose level was well controlled in the 70-80 range. Super high ketone levels can indicate ketoacidosis (very dangerous) but only if your glucose is quite elevated too … mine wasn’t so everything remains perfectly great. But I would NOT have had this reassurance if I hadn’t been measuring ketones and glucose at the same time.

If your ketones aren’t especially high (mine were quickly climbing @ 4.9, 6.1, 6.9 …) then I can’t see any reason not to take tests separately as you wish.

But just a thought… while the Mojo test strips run around $1 each for ketones, the glucose test strips are pretty darn cheap. So… after you test for glucose in the morning, why while not test for glucose AGAIN while testing your ketones? Then you can begin to track your GKI reading once a day also. :slight_smile:


(Not a cow) #6

Are those the only times in a day when you want to check ?
I only eat one meal per day, so I check in the morning before I go to work, then at 5pm when I come home but before I eat, then once again before I go to bed. I want to see BG go down during the day and be at it’s lowest in the evening, and Ketones go up from morning to pre-dinner to bedtime. That’s my plan.


(Bansaw) #7

True, Glucose strips are cheaper. I might test them more often.
I saw the price of the Keto strips and thought, “scam, these people are raking it in at $1 per strip”, but in the end I thought I had no choice but to buy a meter to test if I really was where I was supposed to be.

I am hoping for the day when Equate will launch their own Keto strips at $0.10 each ! :wink:


(Joey) #8

Yeah, I’m definitely with you on the pricing front.

At least the Mojo folks are exerting downward pressure on the ketone test market at $0.99 … while their glucose strips run around $0.15 if you buy the special combo packs, gets close to your “Equate” brand threshold.

Since I’m already poking myself with a sharp stick, drawing blood and spending a buck, I figure that for another $0.15 I might as well see how my glucose is behaving while I’m at it. Seems like a cheap price for some interesting info - at least until I get to know my biochemistry a lot better.

Enjoy!


(Bob M) #9

That’s exactly what you should see.

Ah, you youngins. :wink: When I started testing, ketone strips were $5/each, and then I started buying them in bulk on Ebay, and got them down to close to $3/each. Keto Mojo (and others) have gotten them down to $1/each.

I’d like to see them cheaper, but what I would REALLY like to see cheaper are CGMs (continuous glucose monitors). Those are great, but are $75/month. Get them to $20/month or less, and I’d wear one a lot.

Then let me test insulin (and glucagon) at home, and that would be the Holy Grail of testing. How does my high protein blunch (don’t eat breakfast) affect my insulin? (It doesn’t affect my blood sugar…but it would nice to see what happens with insulin.)


(Bansaw) #10

Thanks for the suggestions.
I am now leaning towards taking the Glucose readings at night (4 hrs after eating)rather than morning.
In fact, because the strips are inexpensive for the Glucose, I might take morning and night actually.

And for Ketones, still taking 12pm (which is 4 hrs after my last meal - which was breakfast)