Keto haters - what to say to them?

(Sophie) #21

Amen! Let them piss off.

(Candy Lind) #22

Yeah, Iā€™d say @Kaiden wins the internet today. Even made me hit Wikipedia for a term with which I wasnā€™t familiar! I have a new hero. :star_struck:

(Candy Lind) #23

ā€œBlessed are the peacemakers ā€¦ā€ :+1:

(Candy Lind) #24

A discussion with a vegan usually IS a religious discussion. Facts and science have very little to do with it.

(Rob) #25

I nominate this post by @CandyLindTX and @MooBoom as ā€œPost of the Dayā€. !

(Marta Loftfield) #26

LOL, when I was going through chemo for breast cancer I told my oncologist I was going to fast during chemo and eat LCHF in between. He said "thatā€™s fine with me just as long as you donā€™t do vegetarian or vegan. They have so much glucose that they feed cancer "

(Chris) #27

I just say since when is eating real meat, vegetables, and avoiding sugar and grain a fad?

and if they are not ready for keto, they sure as hell are not ready for zero carb

(Candy Lind) #28

Hell for a vegan === carnivorous diet, served rare & bloody. :rofl:

(Empress of the Unexpected) #29

I would hate to run into the haters!! People Iā€™m close to are interested in the diet and my progress. Most people I know are trying to cut carbs. I canā€™t imagine losing a friend over a diet, that would be no kind of friend. I guess the keto haters just have an agenda. My husband cooks meat, beans, avocado, veggies. I eat everything but the beans. And end up with an extremely healthy meal. How can I be criticized for that? Do the keto haters even know what we eat???

(Charlotte) #30

Personally, I tend to dismiss it with ā€œyou have a right to your opinion, but this is working really well for me.ā€ If they seem to have genuine concerns/misconceptions about the health of the keto WOE along with an open mind, I might explain a bit of the science or direct them to an online video that explains it in a very simple, easy-to-understand way (Mind over Munch has a great educational video on keto for not-terribly-sciencey-people that Iā€™ve sent to a couple of well-intentioned ā€œconcerned for your healthā€ family members. Itā€™s not a strictly keto youtube channel, but does have some great keto content mixed in). But if people are just being jerks, Iā€™ll disengage or change the subject and move on. Not worth my time to get into it with them.

(Amanda ) #31

So many great ideas/suggestions her - thank you all! You think Iā€™d be used to it, after spending 20+ years defending my vegetarian diet (which I think worked well for me for about 10 years, and then I was depleted!).

I guess the fact that there are haters reminds me not to hate on anyone elseā€™s choices unless Iā€™ve really done the research to understand what they are doing!

(Diane) #32

And even then, maybe keep it to myself unless they express real interest. It is, after all, their body, their life. Just as my WoE is my choice, and Iā€™m the one who has to live with it. :grin:

(clane) #33

I think I have the opinion about ā€˜dietsā€™ rather like I have the same opinion about sex & genders - I donā€™t care who you sleep with at night as long as you are both happy and arenā€™t harming anyone else:)

  • so goes for what you eat. I honestly donā€™t get why anyone with half a mind would feel the need to be offended by what someone else chooses to eat or not eat. Iā€™d say someone who goes down that road with youā€¦ might not be worth continuing a conversation with - but then Iā€™m an an old woman with a definite lack of time left in my life for bullshit:)
(Diane) #34

Well said!

(Marta Loftfield) #35

@Clane love what you said!

(bulkbiker) #36

you mean cheesemakers right?

(Julie ) #37

Will would tell them glad you have your diet and I have the one that works best for me. As if they are hating it that would mean they either donā€™t understand and or not educated on the subject and/or are insecure.

(LeeAnn Brooks) #38

So just a couple hours ago I get called out to assist the front end and the cashier starts gushing about how good Iā€™m looking and keeps asking questions about my diet and what Iā€™m following. It wasnā€™t really something I wanted to talk about in front of customers but she kept asking questions and Iā€™m terrible about shutting that stuff down so I said Iā€™m doing Keto.

As she wraps up with the member, who was no beacon of health mind you, proceeds to chastise me for doing Keto.
Member -ā€œyouā€™re going to gain all your weight back.ā€
Me- ā€œyou will in any diet if you treat it like a diet.ā€
Member- ā€œyou canā€™t do Keto long term. Itā€™s bad for you.ā€
Me- ā€œthank you, I think Iā€™ve got it. Have a nice day.ā€
Me in my head - bugger off and mind your own business.

I mean the audacity of some people. Iā€™m not going to tell anyone their diet choices are bad, unsolicited. I may think it, but come on. Manners people!

(Joe) #39

I would love for keto to stop be branded. Branding a way of eating IS straight from the fad diet text book. I rarely use the term"keto" anymore when in conversation. I think it purpose for those of us who want to share or knowledge would be for this way of eating to be called what it is was called 80 years ago. Eating. Just. Eating. We feel strongly about our WOE just as vegans do but so does everyone who prescribes to any nutrition philosophy or science. I feel the work Nina is doing with the nutrition coalition takes the right approach. This is about global health, politics, and economics when it boils down to it.

We are fighting for the truth and science to be recognized and if we focus on the EAT MORE MEAT! side of things we end up sounding just like vegans. Point to the science and emphasize that this way of eating is natural and not ā€œhackingā€. The more dogmatic we become the more of putting we appear.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #40

Aww, Candy, why do you always have to take the fun out of everything? :smiley: :grinning: :smiley: