Hi everyone
So I have done brilliant in 7 weeks I have lost 28lb 2 dress sizes up top and 1 dress size lower body, I still have more to loose, I have had a week off though and today ready for phase 2 would like to loose about another 20lb. I know this second stage is probably going to be more difficult than the first part but ready for it ,as such a good feeling getting smaller , anyway I wanted to ask what’s the best way to get into Ketosis quicker Bearing in mind I am a few pound heavier due to my break and have eaten non Keto foods for 1 week, do I go straight back to Keto foods? or is it better to fast for a few days first to help get back into Ketosis. ?Although enjoyed the break I am looking forward to bacon and eggs again thanks in advance god any advice and tips
Keto break
Just do it. You can fast if you feel like but I for one eat when I get hungry and I like eating every day anyway… So I very rarely do extended fasts. We get into ketosis quickly and easily enough, fasting isn’t needed. Even if I overdo carbs, extreme low-carb feels very nice, fasting is only my desire if I ate A TON and my body wants me to let it alone as it needs no food at all
Fasting for a couple of days to burn out glucose and glycogen. That said, you may have the wrong idea about keto. It’s not a weight/fat loss diet plan that you can do for a few weeks, lose a few pounds and then return to eating the way you ate before. Keto is a metabolic normalization process that takes months or years to fix the damage done by eating SAD. One of the side-effects is weight/fat normalization as well. But keto is not magic, if you return to eating SAD you will undo any/all gains made by keto. This is a lifetime course correction from eating unhealthy to eating healthy. It’s especially important as a newbie to remain in ketosis as consistently as possible to enable the process to proceed and give your metabolism time to adapt.
Agree with @amwassil. If SAD gave you 50 pounds to lose, why would you go back?
Actually, one can do on/off keto. I like my on/off keto, it’s best of both worlds for me and carefully done it can’t undid the benefits I like. I wouldn’t ever advise doing keto/high-carb on/off though but whatever floats one’s boat. I personally am a low-carber even off-keto except when not but those are rare and short.
But I wouldn’t even advise this either, of course, it’s just how I personally roll as keto all the time is impossible and very much not desired for me. So I can’t blame others doing something remotely similar. If doing keto would need an oath never to break it, most of us probably never would even try it. I surely wouldn’t and that would be tragic as I need extreme low-carb (keto isn’t enough), just not all the time.
It’s great sticking to keto for long if it suits the one in question or if they need it, I agree… I just can’t consider forcing it upon ourselves no matter what good. Sometimes it’s not even possible. And just eating less carbs in average may be beneficial. I only feel strongly about get fat adapted first, to some degree. After 7 weeks there is a big chance for that. No idea how long how carby eating can undo it, though.
I didn’t take an oath to eat keto. I eat keto because I like it; I like the foods; I like the good health I get from eating those foods. I don’t miss anything I no longer eat. I don’t miss the discomfort, the bloat, the gas, the indigestion and reflux. I especially don’t miss the ultimate outcome for the vast majority of folks: obesity, diabetes, CVD, senility and dementia. If you have to force yourself to eat keto, then you need an attitude adjustment. I do agree, though, that just reducing carbs will help. Reducing them more will help more and eliminating them will help the most. But if you think you can just flow back and forth because some days you crave carbs or just can’t ‘make the sacrifice’ for you own good, you’re mistaken and just cheating yourself, in my opinion.
As Dr. Eenfeldt points out, a ketogenic diet is a lot like showering: if you don’t do it, you don’t get the benefits. Life is unfair like that.
Of course you didn’t take an oath. But the attitude “you must stay keto forever” isn’t rare and while it works fine for people like you, it’s definitely bad for people like me. My ideal attitude is something very different and I don’t think I need to change it. We are simply different, with different needs and different attitudes and the latter sometimes can’t be modified during a single life. Or just with some serious reason. I have zero problems breaking keto so why would I stop when I gain something with it (or just easier to go off, I have so many reasons) and lose nothing? It makes no sense to me and I don’t think it ever will. My situation and attitude is different, no wonder I behave differently.
I do on/off keto since several years and it works well enough for me (I need more time until it will be really good but I can’t help that, it’s a slow process), not like I have any other option… My previous woe was more stable carbs wise but this new woe is still better so I keep it.
I think if one needs to force keto, that’s wrong (unless if they are sick and only keto helps or something) but I am a hedonist. I don’t think I ever forced keto. Well once but I call it trying, I quit on day 1. Later it went smoothly. I like keto. Just not all the time, I dislike feeling restricted without any good reason and I would feel that forcing keto on me, that wouldn’t be healthy. On/off keto seems absolutely perfect to me if it’s done the right way and naturally (I don’t just eat whatever, well I do but I actually train myself. just without force and the feeling I am restricted). Things aren’t white and black, not even when someone happen to function better on lower-carb as I do. Sometimes off days are worth it very much.
I have my natural limit where I start to have problem myself. Not as big ones as you but still. But it’s way, way beyond my ketosis carb limit and I can break that too without problems if I am careful. I have a very good idea about my limits and I gladly do the right choice most of the time (I still make mistakes/experiments but it’s hard when my body keeps subtly changing its reactions). It is the right, most enjoyable way. But for example, doing keto in June? I would lose a lot and gain very little (if I do my off-keto June wrong) or about nothing (if I do it well), bad deal. It’s very logical to me. But I know different people who need a different approach and have a different set of options often don’t get people like me. It’s fine.
Yeah, I sometimes feel I am a cheater. I enjoyed the only big benefit of my keto while off-keto for long, fat adaptation with its hunger/satiation changes. Off keto with fat adaptation was so much better than keto without… My “carnivore benefits” work for a little while when I go off too, it seems. I don’t raise my carbs too much, that probably would ruin these way quicker. Still, I have some wriggle room, it’s great.
I need to return but I couldn’t not to anyway.
Others may leave keto but not go totally back, there are so many options, not just keto and the previous woe, after all (and the previous woe, maybe with some keto habits may be just perfect for maintenance, surely there are such cases). As keto can be very different from another keto. And one person raises carbs after a long time on keto, the other lowers it. One adds items, the other eliminates but it’s quite possible to do both.
@Lumiere Thank you! But I didn’t have to do anything particularly. Keto is easy peasy for me.
I admire all the folks who really had to work to accomplish what they’ve done so far. The folks who lost huge amounts of body fat, the folks who gained control of glucose and insulin, the folks who beat diabetes and/or prediabetes, the folks who healed all sorts of metabolic issues, the folks who reduced their CVD risks. Those folks exercised hard core dedication. They are real hard core. They are the ‘proof of the pudding’.
Some people experience the benefits of showering for much longer than others.