Talk about a total scam!
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I eat Schmidt’s 647 bread almost daily, tastes great, zero issues. If you’re going to eat a bread that tastes like bread, you’re going to have ingredients that don’t pass being nitpicky.
“Grains” are not “historically human appropriate”. This is why we have 1 out of 11 getting T2 Diabetes, which was rather unheard of back in the day. But if you are the lucky 10 out of 11, more power to you. Just check your blood sugar every so often. Roller coaster blood sugar swings also cause all kinds of inflammation, resulting in heart disease, artery damage, strokes, wight gain, and T3 diabetes (alzheimer’s). Just be careful, even if the odd are in your favor.
My first symptoms of T2 were a YUGE belly and weight gain. Then a sudden unexplained weight loss. Did not help that all my idiot friends told me how good I looked after losing a lot of weight. It delayed getting diagnosed.
How far “back in the day”? I have to go back 3 generations to my great-grandmother’s time to find very low incidence of T2 diabetes or obesity and they ate grains every day. My great-grandmother rolled out biscuits every morning and used them to sop up the gravy made with bacon or sausage grease and flour.
Not defending the keto bread with the long list of ingredients… but to blame grains for T2D I am not so sure about that.
The rise of obesity and T2D correlates strongly with the rise of HFCS in our diet, loading all our foods with sugar and processed foods with suspect seed oils and a long list of fake ingredients.
100,000 to 200,000 years ago.
No one ate grains back then. They were typically a few tiny seeds on top on blades of grass. Was not even worth the effort to reach down and pick them. Now-a-days, grains have been hybridized for high glycemic carbohydrate not found in nature. The “Healthy Carbs” scam gave me diabetes.
“HFCS” for sure is an issue, but only one of the issues. The row after row of high glycemic offerings based on unnaturally high glycemic grains in the super is also an issue.
Did your ancestors eat one to two meals a day with no snacking and do hard physical labor (farming, etc.)? If so, that would have protected them, as it did the Chinese and their consumption of rice. The Chinese have a real issue with Diabetes today.
IDK about Jane’s anchestors but mine were peasants so they did much physical work (as most people did). They probably ate 3 meals as normal since ages, 1-2 meals is my thing because I am not active (but sometimes I eat 5 times as I need it)…
I surely won’t even attempt to wonder about what to blame for diabetes but I am very sure it’s complicated. Overeating is probably a big problem and most of our anchestors weren’t lazy ones stuffing themselves with things messing with their satiation all day… Modern lifestyle with the unwillingness to change is a problem. Surely people didn’t get so much more stupid but they have the option and use it even if it damages them. While my anchestors were busy and active so eating sugary baked goods somewhat often (no idea but it was regular and that’s too often to me) couldn’t have the same impact… Well they had good genes too and I inherited them so my very sugary, very fatty overeating decades couldn’t cause any noticeable health problem. But it would have been bad even for me to continue…
And yes, eating zillion carbs doesn’t sound a good idea for most people… But here we are, homo sapiens with its science and whatnot. Well okay we barely know anything, we are still pretty much savages. Humankind is very young and while we do great things at some areas, eating right doesn’t go that well.
My great-grandparents ate 3 meals a day with no snacking. Breakfast and lunch were the heaviest meals - dinner was typically leftovers set on the stove all afternoon and re-heated. They weren’t farmers as in producing a crop to sell, but they raised a lot of their own food - cows, pigs, garden, etc.
I’ve been to China and witnessed the rise in obesity - especially in men - when they adopted some of our western diet - especially soft drinks loaded with sugar. The women are still under a lot of social pressure to stay thin, but there are overweight Chinese women also.
Their diet is very high in carbs and low in fat, dairy and protein and I never ate anything that was remotely sweet as they don’t use sugar in their cooking. I took Kerrygold butter sliced and wrapped in foil wrappers to add to my coffee so I wouldn’t starve.
Ouch. Yeah, it’s allegedly better than HCHF but I can’t help but think about how insane carb intake that means especially for the overeaters…
My anchestors ate a lot of fat, I know that. They kept pigs and cows. Extremely fatty pork is still wildly popular here (up to 100% fat, actually, my Mom and Grandma still ate that, I didn’t. I eat fatty pork but I like some meat with my fat).
Very poor peasants (like the ones without own land) probably lived on corn and whatnot a lot, how they survived, I don’t even know… We weren’t rich but okay, own land, own animals, sugary baked treats…
(Just because the land was taken away way before my birth, I feel somewhat included as I have heard so, so many stories…)
Low-fat eating is some modern thing still not so common in this country, I think.
A few years back I watched a documentary on China and why the enigma. I tried to find it again to post here, but could only find weight loss tips. My memory of the was that they were 1) virtually always on the verge of starvation, 2) only ate one or two meals a day, 3) the did not snack between meals, 4) did hard physical labor, 5) could not afford polished (white) rice (unpolished rice has a slight nutritional bump over polished rice).
Now that the communists have used a little bit of freedom in their economy, wheat is now more popular than rice and they have food readily available that they did not have before, including polished rice. And sedentary lifestyles are a new thing. Not to mention junk food. So they are catching up on the diabetes with the rest of the world.
Oh there is no mystery on what causes T2 Diabetes. It is caused by prolonged poisoning with high glycemic carbohydrates not found in nature. It does not fall out of the sky and hit you on the head.
The “healthy Carbs” scam gave me diabetes. I essentially did it to myself.
Grains do not require refrigeration, they are cheap to grow, and have a high profit margin. Combine that with a lot of lobbying and palm waxing and your get all the health problems associated with the Standard American Diet (SAD).
This video will show what I speak of:
Last I heard, due to the old one child policy, men outnumber women 4 to 1 in the cities and 11 to 1 in the country side. If I guy does not own a car, have a career, and own property, he can hang up getting married. And farmers are screwed. The guys can’t be choosy, unless they are very, very rich. Girls have it easy: they can be ugly, fat, obnoxious, etc. and still have a line of guys wanting to marry them.
I do wonder what will happen to Chinese farms as the single men die off. Who will inherit? I have
“heard” (meaning I can’t verify) that some farmers have taken to kidnapping women from surrounding counties for wives. OH THAT WILL MAKE A HAPPY MARRIAGE! I do hope I heard wrong.
They lifted the 1 child per family a few years ago - at least that is what I was told on my last visit there in 2019 when half of their lab techs were going to be out on maternity leave at the same time!
I was also told you can’t just go buy a car - you have to get permission from the Communist government. Strange world, indeed.
I was there right before COVID hit the world and was talking so a group of young engineers who were planning on coming to the US for their first time. I had to explain things like a baked potato, salt and pepper on the tables and having to cut up your own meat with a steak knife. We stayed at an American hotel so I got to enjoy an omelette every morning - made with chopsticks! They didn’t have spatulas LOL. They had all the ingredients in bowls and I just pointed to what I wanted in my omelette.
My colleagues couldn’t believe I didn’t eat their steamed buns, rice or rice noodles - absolutely could not fathom that. Had to eat lunch in their cafeteria so glad I was fat-adapted and could get by with just a little bit of food during the day. I tanked up on steamed vegetables, of which there were plenty.
Those steamed vegi’s sound good! Vegi’s are my down fall. I have to watch their glycemic (GL) load really carefully.
Did you ever get a chance to visit Taiwan? It is a vibrant society steeped in traditional Chinese culture that is a shiny example of self government to the rest of the world. Taiwan is what the Mainland should have been. And you can just buy a car.
I am glad they removed the one child policy. A lot of girls lost their lives over it. Sweet little girls are a blessing from God. How could the communists do such a hideous thing?
I hope the Mainland is able to peacefully throw out the communists in the near future and unlock the Chinese spirit again. Taiwan will show them how.
Great news on all the pregnant ladies!
About ten or twelve thousand years, to the invention of agriculture. Dr. Michael Eades has a lecture, available in many forms on YouTube, about the differences in health between hunter-gatherer remains and agricultural remains. The agriculturists are noticeably shorter, have tooth problems, and other bone diseases. The hunter-gatherer skeletons are taller and healthier, except for the damage from injuries.
The epidemic of Type II diabetes began in the 1880’s, twenty years or so after modern refining methods made refined sugar cheap enough for the masses. Type I has been with us forever (being an autoimmune condition), but until the appearance of sugar, candies, chocolates, and soda pop on the consumer market, Type II was strictly a disease of the rich. Alternatively, there are those who blame the Type II epidemic on industrial seed oils, which entered the consumer market around the same time as cheap refined sugar. Standard nutritional dogma blames diabetes on eating meat, especially its saturated fat content.
In any case, regardless of the cause, eating a low-carbohydrate, high-fat ketogenic diet has been shown to reverse Type II diabetes.
Here is one version of Dr. Eades’s lecture on hunter-gathers versus agriculturists:
Here is a second lecture dealing more directly with obesity and metabolic dysfunction: