Ok, so I just had a small binge (something I’ve been struggling with for several years). I managed to stay off carbs and only eat fats and protein, but my irrational brain is trying to make me believe this will have destroyed my diet.
Can someone confirm I’m not out of ketosis if binge was protein/fats based? I realise my calorie intake for the day has exceeded the norm, but I’m hoping it won’t kick me out of ketosis, maybe will only stall weight loss.
Sorry I kinda panicked now
If you are fat adapted you will likely not go out of ketosis. I find my tolerance for protein is 80 to 150g a day. I’m 5’10" 230lbs.
Fat should never knock you out. You should feel satisiated.
Thanks 
I need to make sure this doesn’t become a habit…
If anyone reading this thread has had similar problems, I’d appreciate their advice on how to overcome it
Oh, I don’t think I’m fat adapted yet. I’ve only just started 5 days ago. Well, will need to pick myself up and start afresh tomorrow. No way I’m giving up this time. Thanks though 
You most certainly HAVE NOT kicked yourself out of Ketosis. The chances that you’ve even created a stall situation are slim as well. I overeat (past the point of satiety) on occasion, usually during a specific time each month 
. It has no ill effect on my weight loss. I know you’re at the very beginning of this journey and I know we’re all different, but here’s the thing-
Many of us are healing mentally as well as physically and I suspect you probably fall into that camp. Years of emotional and mental programming take their toll. My suggestion is that when something like this happens, use it as an opportunity to be mindful about your mental game. Sometimes we just get hungry. Don’t worry about figuring out how to not eat too much again but rather be intentional about it not being a big deal. You’re more than half way there when you “binge” on food that is good for your body! This is not that diet you were on before, with all the hunger pangs and shame and panic and self deprecation. This is your new lifestyle and if you embrace it as such, your mentality and emotional intelligence is going to change right along with your body.
Don’t restrict calories on this way of eating. If you are keeping your carbs under 20 g/day, and keeping your protein in the range of 0.8 to 2.0 g/kg of lean body mass/day, you can afford to eat fat to satiety. In the beginning you will feel as though you are overeating, but in a week or two you should notice a pronounced shift in your appetite, when your satiety signaling cuts in.
It was a weird experience for me when it happened, because I had never stopped eating with food still on my plate before! And my belly wasn’t stuffed to bursting, either—go figure! 
Great advice! Your “I can stop eating now” is partially controlled by a hormone called leptin. Your fat cells use leptin to scream “Hey, stop eating, I’m filled up!”, but Insulin just screams louder… and the body eventually ignores leptin (this is leptin resistance) and insulin (insulin resistance).
Controlling insulin (by reducing carb intake) will let leptin’s voice be heard again.
God, thank you. This is one of the most comforting comments I’ve read in a while. Spot on X will re-read a lot
Thanks. As a baby I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia. I haven’t had it since though, as tests were always ok so it wasn’t confirmed. But I wonder what sort of impact it could have on my insulin levels/resistance. Some part of me now thinks I’m trying to find an excuse for binging, but thanks to your comments I know it’s best not to get distracted and just keto on x
I’ve dealt with hypoglycemia after since I can remember. It’s one of the classic signs of insulin resistance, for some people. I can understand perfectly the need to keep eating, if you’re constantly afraid of having an episode. At 5 days in, I was overeating protein and fat, out of fear of hypoglycemia. I still carry a protein bar in my purse, always, even though I haven’t had one episode in 7 months. As long as you keep carbs low, you won’t get shaky. Until you become comfortable with that idea, eating too much fat will keep you feeling full, which in turn will help you stay calm and keto on.
I just wanted to quickly say I’m feeling much better today, I hope it’s a sign I’m adapting. I’ve done a lot of chores while still being ill with cold and I don’t feel like I’m dying. I actually have some good energy. Just sweating profusely
despite keto, i binge 1-2 times every 2 weeks.
it probably kicks me out of ketosis for a half a day. when i lose control i feel awful but compared to my sugar binges, this is more manageable.
it will happen again. keto will not cure me of it. i do feel more sated than before keto but it is a mental illness and satiety is not the whole picture. binging isnot just a bad habit or a result of being hungry. i binge even when i feel absolutely sated.
i’m being patient with the awareness that remission won’t just come with a couple months of keto.
this is a marathon.
I keto-binged my way through all of the sugar and starch cravings in the beginning months, focusing on fats over proteins…and found that I do actually have a bacon limit Then there came the times when I felt so very very uncomfortable over small issues…more uncomfortable than I felt in many years. I knew I wasn’t hungry, I just wanted to eat. Little by little, I got through those times without eating. It helps that I IF every day so I put off those feelings and delay eating until I reach my window. Then, if I want to keto-binge, I know I can but I usually don’t want. After 8.5 months, I find I still have a strong association between seeing food and wanting to snag a bite, but I am able not to. It also helps to find a ready activity or thoughts to get food off your mind. Jason Fung has some great information about dealing with hunger and reminding yourself that it doesn’t continue to escalate, it comes and goes like waves and it makes it more tolerable when you know that.
my last comment is realistic but perhaps a bit dower ;). i can’t say it enough how much i appreciate the sense of safety in these forums. i wish everyone that feeling of moving closer toward your goals.
Nathan, I am right there with you. For me, it’s the second half of my menstrual cycle that gets me. I hold on, then something snaps, and it’s all over for a week or two.
I can swing quite a bit in my weight over the course of 2 weeks. It’s pretty obvious.
I was disappointed to see that that behavior didn’t stop for me when I lowered carbs; however, I am far more aware of what I do and am recognizing more patterns that help me resist longer each time.
I know the foods which are compulsive for me, but I get bitter that I can’t have what others can - fat bombs, dairy, cheese, nuts, and the like. Then I think I can eat them like a normal person, and it’s all over.
I know many people find that that compulsive behavior ceases for them on keto. My story will require more writing, I suppose.
Keeping calm and ketoing on.
That’s the best way to get the men to shut up on a topic. Well played @MothraMomma 
