Just want to live


#1

I’m an extra fat woman nearing 50. For some reason, I like to think of myself as not having tried much to lose weight. However, when I cast my mind back I have a long history of disorder/dieting/shame/bingeing that’s probably familiar to many people. This all added up to a person who doesn’t feel competent to feed herself. For the record I’ve done Jenny Craig, WW, raw vegan, vegan, McDougalls, etc. I binge ate chips, candy, fried chicken, pizza. I’m sure there’s more, I don’t know.

I’ve done two successful Whole30s: one in 2013 and one this past July. I tend to orthorexia. I know myself well enough to know when I’m grasping for some sense of control in my life by the rigidity of my thinking about food.

I dont know if all of that is a result or a cause, but it can’t be separated from the rest, which, I believe, goes as follows:
Every person’s body and system is different, obv. But I don’t think we understand the half of it. Your gut microbiome is as unique to you as your fingerprint. Your brain chemistry, ditto.
My messed-up endocrine system is the product of genes, early input, years of over-stimulating eating, interaction with brain chemicals and gut chemistry.
I also tend to react strongly and physiologically to stress. I have hyperreactive mucosa, so I get sinus stuff easily… that means inflammation in the head and lungs. Also I have a short trachea, which leads to snoring and apnea, even as a child. Inflamed head and lungs and poor sleep means more stress and more cortisol.
Consequently, my brain believes I’m constantly in danger, like, for years. It uses food to get the hits of dopamine that allow me to feel safe. It discourages me from moving much or changing much because stasis = safety, and keeping me safe/alive is my brain’s one job. So eating and not moving became ingrained behavior.
Whether I was prone to it or ate my way to it, my pancreas/liver/insulin/glucose cycle is all f’d up. That’s obvious, I am super fat.

Knowing all the above, I am disinclined to believe that anything can help. Eating “lower carb” on the Whole 30 seemed to do something positive. I don’t have a scale, I didn’t take measurements. I am and have been in total denial about my body, for years. Being super fat I avoid medical care because I don’t want to be told that everything wrong with me is due to fat. I know in my head that’s not true and not fair, I get the normal stuff non-fat people get. But also, what if it is true that I don’t deserve health because, well, look at me!

But this Spring after a cross-country move (which, in hindsight, I can’t believe I was able to do), I had to confront the reality that I must do something or I will die.

I ended my W30 early August. I ate pretty much the same/paleo for about a month after that. Then I started reading up on Keto. I have no book, (can anyone recommend the best one?) so I’m just trying to put it together from internet posts and videos. At the end of August I decided I don’t need to be tiny. I don’t even need to be thin. I just want to be small enough to wear the cute dresses I already own, and they’re all plus size dresses. That will be enough for me. I don’t hate myself for being fat. I’m just getting tired, and I want to live.

Here’s what I’m not doing well: I’m not doing “macros.”

I’m trying to trust that if I control my insulin by eating carbs in very limited amounts (dairy, vegetables, cured meats) and eat normal amounts of protein (a can of tuna, a couple chicken thighs, a nice big steak, a burger w/double patty), that my body will start working better. I take a potassium and magnesium supplement (along with D, C, multivitamin). I drink a lot of water, but not enough. I did a 30 hour fast from midday Wednesday to dinner last night. It was pretty effortless. I am doing a 24 hour right now (dinner last night to dinner tonight). I don’t know if that’s a good idea or bad. Some NSVs I’ve noticed recently: going down the straight steep stairs in our building usually makes my knees hurt. Last few days: no knee pain. Got a fancy sports bra in the largest size in Mid-June. When I first got it, I couldn’t fit in it. A month later I put it on and I couldn’t breathe in it. Now I wear it regularly with no problems.

I’m putting all this out there because I want to believe this will work for me enough so that I don’t feel so existentially and literally tired, and so I can live. Also, I need community and I like this one.

Thanks for reading.


(Khara) #2

Wow, your NSV so far are great. I truly believe you’ll continue to experience more of these if you stick with this.

You say you’re not doing macros. I get that, especially if you tend towards orthorexia. It can become obsessive. But what you outlined sounds pretty good. Continue to keep carbs as low as you can, 20 net or below. Continue to get a proper amount of protein. You didn’t mention fat so just make sure you are eating to satiety and a good way to meet that is to add fat. Don’t be afraid of fat.

Regarding the best book… I have read (well actually listened via Audible) to so many that they have actually blurred together and I can’t remember what info came from what book. I am currently going through the 2KetoDudes podcasts from the beginning in order. I would highly recommend this. It is a great way to get the basics and then gradually get more in-depth info. Also, in the early episodes Carl has just begun Keto and so you get to travel along with him as he experiences the whole process. They do a good job of explaining the science and have quite a bit of fun with it as well.

Best wishes to you.


#3

Thanks so much. It was actually the podcast that brought me to this forum!

Also, you’re right I didn’t mention fat, but I am defintely eating it in the forms of olives, sunflower/pumpkin seeds, avocado, heavy cream/cheese and animal fats. I always think I’m doing stuff wrong, so I appreciate your validation :smiley:


(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #4

In a major hurry so didn’t read it all yet, but wanted to do a drive-by and say keep carbs under 20 net a day, eat all the fat you want, and add salt.

Your life will change dramatically. Be patient.


(Randy) #5

Hi Miss Hannah! I’m an extra fat man who is 52.

Other than being male, much of your story was very familiar to me. (not the bra part) :wink:

6 months ago when I found keto I weighed 440 lbs. I weighed in today at 357. Many NSV’s as well.

You can do this. We’re here for you. :slight_smile:


(Liz ) #6

You sound totally on the right track & I am crazy excited for you because it’s already helping!! Hang in there, don’t give up, come here for reinforcement any time. We’ve got your back!


(Heidi ) #7

So glad you’re here. Thanks for being vulnerable and sharing with us. Your body will heal and you will feel wellness, I promise!
Books. Understanding what you’re doing and why is both empowering and critical.
I love these books for that:
The obesity code - Jason Fung
And
Salt fix - James DiNicolantonio
There are others but I would really recommend these be you first.
Big high five sista!
H


(Carpe salata!) #8

Patience. Be kind to yourself. It’s going to happen.

^5 and welcome.


(Doug) #9

Welcome, Hannah. :slightly_smiling_face: It will work for you, it is working for you.

It’s a good journey to be on.


(Raquel ) #10

Wow Hannah your story is so similar to mine … getting off the binge train is so unbelievably hard, I’m reading Brain over binge ATM, it seems to be the gold class in BED (binge eating disorder) recovery. I went so well after initially reading it, then fell off the wagon and am struggling big time to fight the urge to binge. I believe eating fat is the key as well as fasting , wondering do you test your blood levels? I have strong compulsive tendencies so worry I will not deal mentally with the blood monitoring gluclose testing. You have done amazing so far and should be so proud , the bra part made me smile as I’ve so been there, currently have an epic wardrobe of clothes and fit into maybe 5% of them. Keep up with this forum it’s got a wealth of info and some really kind and motivating people !


(Anja Kern) #11

I’m glad you’re here! Being part of a community helps so much, especially since a lot of people think that keto is crazy…Not weighing yourself can be an advantage, since those numbers can drive one crazy. It’s not the best way to measure your progress! The bra is! Congrats to your success!
Also, everyone is different. Some can’t do dairy, some can’t do nuts…you just gotta find your way!
I’m still learning, just started about a month ago. I watch a lot of YouTube videos (Butter Bob, Dr. Berg etc) and read in this forum. I’m still motivated and don’t have the feeling I’m missing out on anything! I’m never really hungry, which is very new to me! Just started Potassium, Magnesium etc as well :smile:


(Linda) #12

Welcome Hannah, love your story and your drive!

Try reading Keto Clarity by Jimmy Moore. It’s back to basics but explains a lot for those coming in fresh.

You’ve got this… I can hear it :grinning::clap::+1:
Cheers
Linda


#13

It sounds like you’re already well on your way to healing. Congratulations! I second The Obesity Code by Fung.


(Sallie) #14

I too have been through a lot of the same things. I have a jacked up thyroid on top of it. I’ve counted calories to obsession and have tried pretty much every diet. Low carb, perfect 10 and aip seem to have worked best but here I am trying something else. However this one feels more natural. I’ve only done this for a week so I’m a baby at this. Stay strong girl I’m interested in your progress. Thanks for sharing your story it was helpful. I had to look up the eating disorder never heard of it. Didn’t know that was a thing.


(Edith) #15

Hannah, you can do this! You have the power. Just take one day or even one hour at a time.

I just wanted to mention to be careful with dairy. Some forms have more carbs than one thinks. If you keep carbs to leafy green veggies, you won’t go wrong with keeping your carbs low. The carbs in dairy and nuts will add up quicker than you realize.

Edith


(Linda Culbreth) #16

Randy - that is awesome! Reward yourself with another piece or two of :bacon:


(Linda Culbreth) #17

Welcome and you must be doing something right - just admire yourself in that bra! Someone already mentioned a couple of books - I really like Butter Bob’s videos. that’s great starting place.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #18

Also check out The Art and Science of Low-Carbohydrate Living, by Phinney and Volek, and The New Atkins for the New You, by Westman, Phinney, and Volek. For a survey of the science involved, try Good Calories, Bad Calories, by Taubes, and Big Fat Surprise, by Teicholz. These people are all either researchers themselves or journalists with strong credentials in nutritional research.


#19

Welcome, and stay!


(Mary 🌹 ) #20

I got a free Kindle book on Amazon…“Never Binge Again”
It helped me :100: % PERFECT!
I make a food plan…(the night before)
I follow it :100: % Perfect.
It lets me feel my emotions now instead of eating instead!
Freedom!