Just tried Erythritol for the first time


#1

I have just purchased a kilo bag of Erythritol and I tried a small amount yesterday in tea and coffee and I felt nauseous after drinking it. I tried again today just to be sure it wasn’t just me but I felt nauseous again today straight after drinking the coffee. I am so disappointed. I wonder if I persevere will I get used to it?


(Alec) #2

I would suggest this is a signal that your body doesn’t go well with erythritol. I would find a different sweetener.


#3

The bag cost me €10 :frowning:(I had to get it from amazon as it isn’t stocked anywhere where I live). I have always used supermarket sweeteners which are cheap but the carbs mount up. What is another sweetner like Erythritol where carbs are not an issue?


(Alec) #4

I used to use xylitol. Was very good, but I stopped as we have a dog and it is fatal if the dog eats it.


(Brian) #5

This is what I use…


#6

I had read that about xylitol and I have 2 dogs so definitely wouldn’t have it in the house :dog:


(Patrick) #7

Stevia seems like the safest option, but be aware anything sweet-tasting will raise your insulin a bit and potentially slow weight-loss, if that’s important to you.


(Full Metal KETO AF) #8

Erythritol is one of the best and most tolerable sugar alcohols for keto. Your other options would be liquid stevia if you’re not put off by the aftertaste. Allulose might be okay but it’s about 50% more in cost compared to Erythritol and you might have an issue there even though it’s not a sugar alcohol, but again most people don’t have an issue with it. Artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols don’t spike blood sugar but any sweet taste in your mouth will trigger an insulin response. It causes a stall for many people especially if you’re consuming them in between meals keeping your insulin up much of the day. This works against weight loss. I do use some sweeteners but not in my daily beverages. Just a bit here and there cooking, so I only consume them with food when an insulin response is more appropriate. Which has led me to question whether toothpaste and mouthwash during your not eating time has a negative effect on weight loss. :face_with_monocle:


(Full Metal KETO AF) #9

@Alecmcq I have often wondered about this logic. We keep all kinds of things in the house that are poisonous and even fatal for children and pets. But we store them appropriately. The problem would be baking a bunch of foods with xylitol in it and leaving a plate on the living room table for a dog to get access to. Chocolate and grapes are also toxic to dogs as well as other things probably. Just be responsible. :cowboy_hat_face:


(Bunny) #11

Monk Fruit is the only natural sweetener I would use (research is all in the positive; no known side effects), but the only other thing I would use is unsulfured light molasses; it is just sweet enough but not too sweet or Raw Sugar Cane because I don’t want something that does not make insulin react (my gut bugs are more important than worrying about minor insulin spikes i.e. chronically elevated insulin is my concern). Any and all artificial sweeteners including Stevia is just too dangerous to use for keto in my opinion. You develop overlapping problems; from glucose toxicity (SAD diet) to begin with and then your throwing artificial sweeteners on top of it? Is it no wonder why medical professionals are confused about keto?

Cane Sugar: Refined versus Raw versus Unrefined

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(Bunny) #12

If it can kill pets I can just imagine what it’s doing to us? (why is a canary a coal minors best friend?)


#13

I might try monk fruit. Can you recommend any brands? Thanks.


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #14

Their are only two sweeteners I like… Sucrose (table sugar) which obviously I cant have anymore, and sucralose (Splenda) which not only tastes great, but is made from sugar. In fact, it basically is sugar, but with one little part of the molecular chain broken, so it goes right through you without being digested.
AND after countless studies over more than 20 years, has NEVER been shown to cause cancer, or any other health issues. I use it by the TON.
All that other garbage, Stevia, Agavae, Erythatol, Monkfruit, etc, taste like cr@p… whether they are natural or not.

I still don’t get why so many Keto and other sugar free recipes keep talking about all these cr@ppy sweeteners, and forget the best freaking one !!! Sucralose for the win ! :slight_smile:

I think a lot of people hear “Splenda”… and try to equate that to other lousy tasting artificial sweeteners, like Aspartame, and Saccharine… But NO. That is a whole other thing.

My GF makes recipes with Splenda, then when her family and friends come over, they eat it, and love it, because they don’t realize its not actual sugar. Obviously they cant taste the difference, which is the way a sweetener should be.

PS, My old body building buddy and I had read, that studies were shown, that if you ate the equivalent of like 3300 packets of Splenda a day, this could cause liver failure, so we figured as long as we stay below 3000 packets a day, we should be okay :wink: lol


(Full Metal KETO AF) #15

Sucralose is calorie-free, but Splenda also contains the carbs dextrose (glucose) and maltodextrin, which brings the calorie content up to 3.36 calories per gram (1Trusted Source).

However, the total calories and carbs Splenda contributes to your diet are negligible, as you only need tiny amounts each time.

Sucralose is 400–700 times sweeter than sugar and does not have a bitter aftertaste like many other popular sweeteners (2, 3Trusted Source).

SUMMARY Sucralose is an artificial sweetener. The most popular product made from it is called Splenda. Sucralose is made from sugar but contains no calories and is much sweeter.

Effects on Blood Sugar and Insulin

Sucralose is said to have little or no effects on blood sugar and insulin levels.

However, this may depend on you as an individual and whether you’re used to consuming artificial sweeteners.

One small study in 17 severely obese people who did not regularly consume artificial sweeteners reported that sucralose elevated blood sugar levels by 14%, and insulinlevels by 20% (4Trusted Source).

Sucralose by the “ton”? I just wouldn’t go there. While I realize your stance about the negligible difference in quality of food sources you’re playing with :fire: using that philosophy. :cowboy_hat_face:


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #16

EXACTLY !!! So WHY do people keep forgetting this, and trying all of these other nasty tasting or possibly unhealthy sweeteners ?!?!


(Bunny) #17

There are tasty real natural sugar alternatives like coconut palm sugar or date sugar (low glycemic index and maybe insulin index)?

From the American Cancer Society: “Current evidence does not show a link between [sucralose] and increased cancer risk.”

Maybe Splenda kills cancer?

We have it WRONG about SPLENDA?

You can feed laboratory beagles tons of Splenda and they don’t get cancer or any other adverse health conditions?


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #18

Apparently, a LOT of people have it wrong about Splenda. Im constantly surprised how Splenda is just left completely out of discussions about sweeteners. They talk about all these other cr@ppy ones that are supposedly healthy, then bash on Saccharine, and Aspartame (which they should) but just seem to completely overlook sucralose ? I don’t get it ?


(Marianne) #19

Can you contact the vendor and ask if you can return it because you have a bad reaction to it?


(Alec) #20

I think this is about the level of toxicity. I think if a dog eats chocolate he will get sick (I didn’t know about grapes!!). But my understanding is if he eats xylitol he can die.

I agree it just takes a level of care, but we’re talking about a substance hidden inside a food, and almost every dog owner will give their dog scraps from their own plates. It would be too easy to make a mistake, and although I used xylitol for a couple of years without an issue and being careful, I eventually came to the conclusion if there are other good alternatives without this issue, why take the risk? Death of a loved pet is a very very bad outcome. So why take the risk when there are alternatives?


#21

Enough chocolate can kill a dog to (darker the chocolate, the more dangerous it is)

grapes, raisens, onions can allso kill in high enough quantity’s and dependent on the individual dogs size & sensitivity.

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