July 2018 ZornFast

[hedleylo]

I often find the longer the fast the easier it seems. At least in the morning. Evening can sometimes be a little rough if I start thinking about food in the afternoon.

pleasantly surprised that it went very well and I found it actually quite easy

Congratulations. Some might say this is a sign you’re fat adapted.

[goldwingnut]

Interesting.

I have moments of clarity when fasting, along with moments of MORE clarity. I love fasting and usually find it nearly effortless.

HOWEVER… For some reason, I now need to supplement by taking in some added fats…if my fast lasts more than 48 hours or so. But, I’m happy to report, that doing so on this month’s Zorn Fast has enabled me to really enjoy Extended Fasting again…at least that’s my initial impression. I’m closing in on hour #72, and feel like a million bucks.

[hedleylo]

I’ve tried adding fats. Just causes me to lose control. Only coffee, water, and salt this time and I’m at 90 hours. Starting to prep my lunch so I’ll break around 90.5. I’m calling this month an incredible success.

[goldwingnut]

@hedleylo

See, your experience makes me wonder if I must be making another, unrelated mistake during my last 2 fasts that ‘failed’ short of my goal.

I must try another water fast…with more caution with my electrolytes.

I’ve fasted many many times in my past…for far longer without ill effect.

Much more to learn, no?

N=1.

(Double post above, sorry)

[hedleylo]

Broke a little over 90.5 hours.

This was the goal I set, and although there were some times I wanted to break sooner I persevered.

Good luck to everyone who is still fasting.

[collaroygal]

@hedleylo

See, your experience makes me wonder if I must be making another, unrelated mistake during my last 2 fasts that ‘failed’ short of my goal.

I must try another water fast…with more caution with my electrolytes.

I’ve fasted many many times in my past…for far longer without ill effect.

Much more to learn, no?

N=1.

(Double post above, sorry)

You have lost a lot of weight. Remember Richard’s article on why some people have more difficulty fasting? He built a calculator to tell you how much more fat you might need in addition to what your body is able to access.

Fasting for wellness, not weight loss

Have you used Richard’s calculator and read the blog on why fasting is easier for some people. It is very helpful. Once I got down to the normal range for my height I found it harder to do longer fasts, 24 or so, still not a problem but going for several days can be challenging now. I am currently doing the July Zornfast, and I have had 3-5 macadamia nuts to help me over the rough spots. Once I had those, I was good to go again, I getting to the 36 hr. marker without any further issues. Goo…

[Ajax]

Done! As it turned out I was on retreat where they only serve vegetarian/starchy food - so I have found it easier just to avoid all offerings and fast. Wednesday evening to now - will wait 20mins just to make it officially 96 hours and then break. Hoping this will set me up well for alternate day (36-42) fasting so I can push through to getting closer to goal. Seems that I’m at that stage where I can maintain ok - but having to start ‘mixing it up’ (to quote Megan Ramos) to get through the last leg of the journey of the weight lose aspect of the journey. So grateful to have found keto/fasting as a sustainable way of living. It’s coming up to my one year mark on keto and cannot say enough about how I feel and all the positive results I have realized.

[0bea154ea5cfba4371ad]

I finished up my fast yesterday at 61 hours. Had to ease into it before a family lunch. Got my ketones to 2.4. I also felt amazing and like I could go longer. Lost four lbs. I had gained last week. Ready to do it again for sure! This is the fourth extended fast in have done and am ready to push past three days. Need to look at my schedule to fit it in.

[ava_ad0re]

I didn’t have access to the forum over the weekend, I stopped at 43 hours. I felt like I was missing out with my family and wanted to go out for dinner. Tho I could have kept going and I’m a tad annoyed I didn’t @mtncntrykid

[goldwingnut]

@collaroygal that is a GREAT resource!

Thanks for the re-post.

And yeah, I am down to around 30# of fat stores, and if the info that a maximum of ONLY 31 kCals are made available per pound of stored fat is actually correct, no wonder I have to supplement with some fat.

I had a DEXA done a while back and I still have some fat to lose to get into low double digits of fat stored. I’m probably clocking around 140# of lean mass out of 170# total, with 2200 kCals needed to meet my daily caloric needs. All these numbers are approximate, except what I actually weigh. Oh, and I’m 64.

I’ve already told you more than I know!!

Once again, thanks!

[hedleylo]

I may have overdone both the length of my fast and my refeed. Feeling pretty miserable today. Sore throat. Tired.

[collaroygal]

I finished up with 95 hrs of fasting since Wed. The first 51 hrs. was water/ketoaide & salt ,except for 1/2 cup of coffee w/dash of HWC, 12 hrs. in, which I didn’t finish. Just got the idea in my head a real water only fasting period would be good to try. Haven’t had coffee since then. I did do a re feed meal Fri. and started another 43 hrs of fasting after it.

The Ketofest feed helped me finish that part up.

I feel good and slept well last night after my refeed meal. So I am thinking I might want to do a week of ADFasting. So I will eat today, and skip tomorrow to start that off.

Even if you didn’t hit your original goal, fasting helps no matter how short or long you can go. I hope everyone is feeling good after the fast and found the love and support here helpful to get you through the night as John Lennon would say.

[goldwingnut]

Even if you didn’t hit your original goal, fasting helps no matter how short or long you can go.

^^^^THIS^^^^

@ collaroygal, I’m winding down a Fast 96 myself, and waaaaay ready for a re-feed. I drank some Chicken Stock (store bought, Costco) (SHEESH!..) with added salt and think that’s a good thing.

I almost forgot to use the spoiler!

I have not been making Ketoaide, but for next month’s Zorner, I will give it a try.

[Digital_Dave]

Sorry to hear that, Lonnie. - I actually felt fine until 15 minutes after eating my meal. Had some stomach issues for the next hour, but still felt relatively good, just empty.

I’ve since been told that maybe eggs or nuts are not a real good source to break a fast with. Will definitely try something different next time.

[collaroygal]

I’ve since been told that maybe eggs or nuts are not a real good source to break a fast with. Will definitely try something different next time.

In one of Megan Ramos’ podcasts, she says eggs can be a problem. She personally does a small, side salad with lot of oil on it to break her fasts, then waits 30-60 mins. to have a normal meal. Some of us do use nuts, I do, but others have reported problems, it hasn’t been for me. But I think Megan’s advise is a good suggestion for a fast breaker without issues.

[hedleylo]

I’ve heard nuts are ok, but to avoid eggs. I’ve never had issues with refeeding with eggs so I don’t think that’s my problem. I’m thinking it might be because the weather is cooling down and I had my windows open last night.

Completely unrelated to the fast or the refeed. Unless, again, if I fasted for too long which compromised my immune system. More likely this is just from leaving my windows open with the cooler weather.

[Digital_Dave]

Thanks, Patreon. I will give that a try.

I actually did eat 6 olives and one deviled egg first, then waited an hour before eating an actual meal. But something surely didn’t agree with this. Thanks again

@hedleylo - Yeah, that very well could be. I know my area has cooled down quite a bit, due to all the storm activity that been coming through, and still is. At least couple more days.

[Janie]

My husband started running a fever and feeling bad after his first ever water fast and I had him drink a ketoaid and he felt better almost immediately. I didn’t think about it for many hours after he was feeling puny. He supplemented with ketoaid while fasting but stopped once he started eating again.

[goldwingnut]

@hedleylo

HA! I read your post about eggs, QUITE LITERALLY as I was eating my BREAKfast meal of 3 hardboiled eggs, slathered with melted butter.

Such is my timing.

I feel okay though, 4 hours later and hope to keep feeling okay. My usual re-feeding procedure is (unintentionally) to eat 'til I’m disgusted with myself, and feel all icky.

I. Hate. That.

And I’m determined to break that cycle.

My usual ‘long’ fasts are much shorter these days, say…36 to 48 hours…and I’m even prone to over-indulging when breaking one of those.

No Bueno…

I usually do some version of that type of fasting 2 or 3 times a month, with my normal, daily feeding window at about 4 hours.

July’s Zorn Fast has been one of my better ones, since losing that initial 140 Pounds last November. I’m now @ 170…15 pounds lower than that weight (185#) which seemed like “The Impossible Dream” (la la la) back in December of 16.

My all time high was 333. YIKES!

[Brenda]