I've stalled a bit, thinking of trying OMAD


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But why is the amount important? It’s less calories so we naturally eat more of it… Or is it just me? :slight_smile: I want to ensure to get the right amount of fat for my protein. Leaner stuff is better for me as it’s ridiculously easy to add fat in copious amount but near impossible to add lean protein. Of course, if one have it differently, they should focus on fat. Our needs and tastes matter very much in these decisions, that’s why one person don’t understand why the other does their best to eat as lean meats as possible.

I got curious and looked up sausages here. It doesn’t matter if a sausage is pork or chicken/turkey, it can be lean, fatty or anything in-between. Sometimes the fat is 65% of the protein content, sometimes 225-250%… Wow, it’s a huge range! IDK what kind of sausages we are talking about, we have Vienna sausages (the leanest stuff but even that can be fatty), other type of sausages and dry sausages (now I remember I ate dry turkey sausage before, not bad but I prefer pork as it’s drier and more substantial), the dry has way more fat than protein, no matter the animal. But most sausages are quite fatty.

Because I don’t want to massively overeat. That’s not healthy and I wish to lose fat to show off the muscles I hopefully gain…
I must limit fat and protein as overeating them is bad. I don’t care about carbs as long as I eat close carnivore but I do limit dairy for reasons (overeating fat, mostly).
Some of us are prone to overeating. It’s easier with tiny energy needs. I need a lowish fat intake in order to avoid overeating like crazy. I always loved fat and I badly needed A TON during high-carb. It was a bit hard to lower it drastically on low-carb (I was daydreaming about fattier days for 10-something years - while eating too much fat compared to my modest needs). Keto brought no more changes but I think I have found the way.
That’s why.

Yes, of course. I never say keto means we need to eat little carbs. We need to eat little ENOUGH. It’s highly individual, depends on the person and their activity. And possibly a bunch of other things. I never even tried to eat below 20g carbs, I ate as little as I could and hoped I was below my personal limit. And I apparently was though it still wasn’t a really good diet for me. But it wasn’t about my carb intake.

One can lose weight on HCHF too. (I can’t by my own will but otherwise, sure.)
I said nothing about health regarding the basic definition. Keto itself is just about ketosis, not health (most of us obviously focus on health, it’s very logical and very right). One can do unhealthy keto with the most perfect items too, obviously. Health is another thing and highly individual.

Because even they know keto isn’t necessary well formulated? Just about carbs. I don’t know them but if they had to specify, it means mere keto doesn’t necessarily contain it. Makes perfect sense to me.

No one ever told me eating hundreds of grams of fat a day was any bad :frowning: Maybe they should have, I had so huge difficulties for almost half a decade to keep my fat intake low enough - but I am glad I didn’t get that insane low level teaching others here apparently did. So surreal, I just can’t wrap my head around it. Now I hear such things very occasionally - in the supermarkets where there are extremely fatty meats on sale all the time :smiley: It’s actually funny. The supermarket ad paper (I still don’t know the term for it) sometimes write about cooking lean meat without much added fat… And the next page is full with pork belly and pure fat tissue and whatnot on sale.

Maybe for people with a high energy need. My OMAD meals are often quite small. I ate way bigger meals before on any diet. Yes, that’s one reason why I don’t do it every day but even if I could do OMAD with the perfect macros longer term, the meals wouldn’t be big. Just decent sized (still smaller than many meals in my past and I never could eat really huge meals) and perfect for a slow fat-loss. When I don’t do OMAD, I don’t get smaller meals most of the time, my first meal is OMAD sized and I have other(s). So if a bigger meal is a problem, I should do OMAD to bring down the mealsize I suppose… :smiley: (I am not serious, I never could handle multiple low-cal days and it’s quite right.)
OMAD is quite logical for us whose energy need is only enough for a single modest meal. I know there are tons of people who get satiated by small meals, I am not one of them. So 2 meals are just way too much food under normal circumstances. It’s quite logical but OMAD has plenty of other benefits for me.
My digestive system should be able to handle it but I think it can thank me that I eat less on OMAD. Overeating must be a burden on multiple levels. And more expensive and time consuming too. And it keeps me fat.


(Mark Rhodes) #22

(Robin) #23

@Steelerfan2024
Hi Rob, I t must feel like we are all piling on. I hope you realize we speak from experience and concern. And the desire to help you like we were helped by others before us.

Here’s my meager 2 cents.
1st: An average of 2 pound lost a week adds up 52 pounds in a year. No matter how much weight you want to lose, that’s not only impressive, that’s maintainable!

BUT… if you want to speed up the process, you may need to eat significantly more.

Hang in there… trust the process.
Glad you’re here!
Stay in touch.


(Bob M) #24

While I have nothing against eating higher fat, I eat higher protein instead. I simply feel better eating higher protein. And I’ve been this way for YEARS. Many years. I was eating all the high fat stuff, and then I started testing super high protein, low fat to see what would happen with my blood sugar. It was then when I realized that higher protein, lower fat made me feel better. That was 2017.

I went from high fat everything to lower fat everything.

And Maria has plenty of success stories to show that other people do better on higher protein:

If you want to eat higher fat, do it. Just don’t say that higher fat is good for everyone. It’s not.


(Edith) #25

Ha, ha, I have noticed something similar on magazine covers, especially women’s magazines. They will have a picture of some decadent dessert (see recipe inside) along with the caption for an article on how to lose 10 pounds in a month.


(Rob) #26

No pain at all. My issue is that its been about 10 days without any change in weight. I even started walking, but the scale won’t move. Just want to jump start things.


(Robin) #27

A 10 day stall is frustrating, but they happen. I would just stay the course.
Can you try not to weigh for a month or so? That’s very hard in the beginning, I know. But stalls are not unusual and can really mess with your head.


#28

Hey @Steelerfan2024 just a heads up on a post I made about “stalls

I didn’t want to hijack your post so made a different one, but have a look:


(Geoffrey) #29

Ten days ain’t nothin. That’s just an adjustment. Did you measure? Quite often when we aren’t losing weight we can still be losing inches.
During my 10 month journey down to my optimal weight I hit plateaus on several occasions that would last a month. I wouldn’t even notice two weeks.
Just keep on doing what your doing and eat plenty of good heathy fat and protein and let your body lose in its own time.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #30

Depends on what you mean by “a stall.” Three weeks of no scale movement is not a stall. Three months? Three years? It depends.

For example, after my initial 80 lb./36 kg loss, I had twelve months of stable scale numbers during which I lost another two inches from my waist. That was not a stall, because obviously I was still losing fat, even though the weight of the fat lost was being balanced by the weight of muscle gained. The fit of our clothing is just as important an indicator of progress as the number reported by the scale.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #31

Bingo! :+1: