It's interesting

(KM) #41

Yes, I’m just responding to the original question; I think the term “keto” is getting unpopular, but the dietary choices underlying it are not.

#42

But grains are considered vital, probably most people think so… I see them everywhere, for fat-loss, for health, for everything. It must be a very shocking thing to cut them out in the eyes of most people.

(I prefer saying I mostly avoid plants because they are too sugary for me. Like vegs :slight_smile: Sadly, I am a hermit and can’t shock people. Oh well.
Once I told a fruit seller than fruits are full with sugar and not exactly healthy for me… :upside_down_face:
But yes, I can imagine situations and personalities where one wants to be careful. I love when they can tell truths others accept readily, not having much idea what exactly the woe entails.)

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #43

I’m hoping this will gain momentum. My partner mentioned I was eating a Keto Diet to her Doctor only yesterday., she got a surprise when the Dr said she did the same! The Dr also added the latest research is hard to deny.

(Central Florida Bob ) #44

I haven’t heard of breatharianism for years. There was some person that got a bunch of headlines for it and then was found to be having “just a mouthful” of food regularly, but just enough to not starve. Late '90s? I sure don’t remember. Now I’ll spend my evening with a search engine trying to remember who and why I know about them.

Then I ask myself, how different is breatharianism from long, dry fasts? Just no “living off the energy of the universe” or “living off prana” and more “living off the energy I carry in my spare tire.”

(KM) #45

LOL. or to be ‘with it’, IJBOL. I still believe in saunas (which I do in the form of long hot baths that raise my heart rate and sweat out all the bad stuff, or so I think) and ice baths (which I do not do because I don’t think living longer is worth that kind of suffering.)

#46

Ice baths sounds uncomfortable and a chore to make to begin with (at least for me) but I am very much used to cold showers now :slight_smile: My mostly comfortable kind of cold showers, I actually only use the warm handle (except in really hot days) and my water is nice enough, starts at 10-19C and goes up to 25C, maybe even more in the end… It took me several months to reach this level but I never had to do something I disliked.
It surely doesn’t do any harm and there are benefits, even some financial… It’s nice not to depend on warm water much.

#47

I like me a bit of time in a Sauna. Just feels right. Ice baths -Brrrr, no thanks.

(Central Florida Bob ) #48

I usually take a shower with the water nearly full-on cold but my cold tap water is probably 80F. I’m curious about the ice baths, but not enough to buy lots of bags of ice, drag them into the house and throw them in the tub. Which goes almost 100% unused because it’s in the cat’s bathroom and he doesn’t need a tub! All for a few seconds.

Doing it regularly just isn’t going to happen.

(Geoffrey) #49

Ice baths? Cold showers? :cold_face:
Not happening. I hate the cold.
It was 109° here yesterday and my AC is set at 76° and when I settled down in the evening to watch a movie I put a blanket over my legs.

#50

I had an aunt (she died a while ago at an old age) who used to go to a spa where they came into your room at 6 am and wrapped you in ice cold stuff (not sure what). It would take half an hour to thaw out.

The rest of the day was spent hiking and taking in 3 small (very small) meals, mostly carnivore, and one shot of liquor with each meal. She went there for two weeks every year for like 20 years and loved it.

You could not have paid me to go there, much less the other way around. But apparently enough people loved it, the place was doing just fine financially.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #51

Sports stars here, and I’m guessing there, have ice baths after the game. Sounds terrifying to me. They claim it aids recovery.

#52

It’s some very special torture to me. I believe some love it or get some benefit from it but these are very fine points for a spa in hell designed just for me.

It would take very much money or some more precious gifts to make me go there. Like, some magic makes my eyes permanently perfect? I would think about it.

I hate the hot more. Of course, it depends, I would choose 27C over -20C :smiley: But 10C room temp is better than 30C. I can get warmer. Getting colder is tough as my own body works against it.

But I am a human so I like my environment in a small temperature range… Bigger if it’s for the outside, temporarily. I don’t LOVE cold. I just endure and handle it better than summer. Summer is pretty bad for me when it’s real hot. Thankfully it’s almost over and good weather comes! :smiley: (But we had an unusually cool summer so it was mostly fine.)

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #53

I’m with you on that one, LOL! What’s the use of a longer life if we’re not enjoying it? :grin:

The YMCA I used to belong to had a sauna, and boy was it helpful to ease the pain after exercising. It’s one thing I miss where I currently live.

(Luke) #54

I started doing sauna around the same time I started low carb/keto and now looking fairly enthusiastically into ice baths or using both. I find the sauna relaxes me and takes away some stress. I feel like I’m getting toxins out of my body and sleep like a baby on sauna days. Just thought it was worth a mention for anyone thinking of trying it. [quote=“PaulL, post:31, topic:119297, full:true”]
Well, people may be quitting keto for whatever reason, but the recognition of it is higher than ever. I was in the local farm store last week asking about what kinds of yoghurt they carry, and as soon as I mentioned “full-fat Greek yoghurt,” the manager said, “Oh, you’re doing keto?” That wasn’t happening five years ago.

BTW, whatever happened to juice cleanses, drinking your urine, saunas, ice baths, megadoses of Vitamin C, the drinking man’s diet, the potato diet, the banana diet, the Toronto Hospital diet, breatharinism–you get the picture. Keto is so last week, so the trendy folk have to move on to the next fad.
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(KM) #55

I have to say if I could find a good Finnish sauna and an ice-bath side by side in the traditional way, so I was first overheated and then relieved to jump into the snow, that would be a different story. Going from just about comfortable to freezing, not so great to me.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #56

The top sports stars, with their $ of sports science, teams doctors etc etc, use ice baths as a recovery tool I believe.