Is it possible to eat more calories than I need and lose weight?

(Bella) #1

Hi,

I have 2 questions :
I eat between 20-30% of protein, apparently it’s too much for a ketogenic diet. Is it true ?

  1. Is it possible to lose weight but eating more calories than I should ?
#2

  1. No, that’s about the percentage of your calories you should be aiming for protein. You need to determine how many grams of protein you need by going off your lean body mass.

  2. Your body is better at determining how many calories you need than any app, so go by what it tells you.

(Full Metal KETO AF) #3

Calories don’t matter so much with keto as when you’re eating carbs. I don’t think that the protein is any problem at all for now. What’s important is that you feel satisfied hopefully until your next meal.

Keto weight loss isn’t dependent on the faulty CICO model that’s been shoved down our throats for years shaming and blaming people for eating too much and being lazy.

Basically carbs are a limit, protein is a goal and fat is the energy replacement for the lack of carbs you’ve cut out. Focus for now only on keeping your daily carb consumption under 20 grams. Eat low carb veggies and fatty cuts of meat or if you’re eating a lean meat augment it with butter, bacon or animal fat, evo, avocado oil or coconut oil. These should be the fats you’re eating. No seed oil, or processed oils of any kind including corn, canola, soy.

This will trigger a ketosis response from your body and you will start burning fat within a couple of months at the most usually. Get 2-3 teaspoons of salt in daily. I can’t eat that much with food or drink salty water. My adaptation is swallowing 4-5 grams of Himalayan pink rock salt after dinner otherwise I start getting cramps in the early evening. I hope this was helpful.

(Bella) #4

Why is Canola oil bad ? (not processed)

(Eric - The patient needs to be patient!) #5

If you need to lose a significant amount of weight this book might help. Dr Jason Fung the Obesity Code. Helped me break my stall. Explained how insulin stores fat and how the lack of insulin burns fat.

Talks about calorie in and out model and many others. helped me. Hope it helps others.

(Full Metal KETO AF) #6

I don’t know the exact reason but it’s a standard with keto. Animal, nut and fruit oils only. I know the processed oils do not work on a cellular level and are toxic. I imagine that unprocessed seed oils might have similar effects on the body especially when heated for frying. Cold pressed oils become rancid easier and heating them causes oxidation rendering them unhealthy for much the same reason it’s bad to overheat butter or olive oil.

(Bella) #7

What if it’s a cold pressed canola oil ? Thank you very much for helping me !

#8

Vegetable/seed oils cause inflammation, among other problems, and throw off your omega-6/omega-3 ratio. Animal fats and fruit oils only.

(Eric - The patient needs to be patient!) #9

Read the book https://thebigfatsurprise.com/ or search youtube for Nina Teicholz

PUFAs - polyunsaturated fatty acids have an overabundance of omega 6 and we don’t get enough omega 3 FA. That makes them inflammatory. Also, nut and seed oils that are highly processed are more industrial oils and contain solvents and have other problems.
corn oil, sunflower oil, soybean oil, etc. Not sure about cold pressed canola but I avoid them.

Animal fat, olive oil, avocado oil, butter are my go-to oils.

@Bella123 @David_Stilley

(Bella) #10

Noted :metal:

(Bella) #11

Perfect, thank you for the information. I will cut out canola oil from my diet !

(Eric - The patient needs to be patient!) #12

We you eat out you can almost be sure that the restaurants are using the oils we don’t want. I eat mexican once a week and then only occasionally a few other places and I don’t worry about the oils. But I get a lot of omega 3 FAs from sardines, salmon, etc. and my inflammation is now very low and my pre-T2D is reversed. Still losing wt. When I started out I just did not go out unless I had to for business or family celebrations.

(Chris) #13

There is no (not processed) seed oil in existence. All canola (rapeseed oil) oils are highly processed and heat treated which oxidizes the linoleic acid and causes systemic inflammation in the body.

All seed oils should be avoided. Canola, vegetable, flaxseed, soybean, peanut, etc. Nuts and beans are also seeds.

(note this goes along with what @daddyoh says)

(Ashley) #14

I read through that book a few years ago when I half assed Keto. Think now I’m more serious I’ll give it a read!

(Full Metal KETO AF) #15

You can get cold pressed unprocessed seed oils, not recommending them just saying. I do occasionally use toasted sesame oil but in very small quantities.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #16

Canola and the other seed oils (they are called “vegetable” oils for marketing purposes) all contain high percentages of polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA’s), which break down to unknown byproducts under heat and many of which cause inflammation. There are two essential types of fat, and both happen to be families of PUFA’s: the ω-3’s and the ω-6’s. We must have a small quantity of each type, but the latter type causes inflammation if we get too much.

Stick to the fruit oils—avocado, coconut, and olive—or cook with butter, tallow, lard, bacon grease, etc.

(Eric - The patient needs to be patient!) #17

We do also for certain asian dishes.