I can’t make up my mind. That’s the jist of my angst.
I can’t figure it out.
Can there be ten solutions to one problem? Of course… Is ketosis and low carbs easy?
Nope
Not many fast food joints pushing out ten carb choices.
Add in the enormous attempt to grasp the why’s… It’s tough.
So no I can’t make up my mind. I am not embarrassed to admit… I’m stumped
Shrug
Oh, I get it. I didn’t pick up on your meaning right away. Yeah, I feel the same way, too.
Tell me about it.
I think the real clincher is that the human body has so many variables going on all at once, and we each have to learn to read ourselves from the inside out. We’ve been taught for so long that the science of health is simple and straightforward, (that science in general is infallible and devoid of personal influence), that we should believe everything “experts” tell us immediately and without question, and if their advice doesn’t work then it’s our fault.
I’m not a violent woman, but I’ve fantasized about a lot of “experts” receiving painful comeuppance in the form of poetic justice.
Programmed and I’m questioning the
h e (double hockey sticks ) outta everything I’ve been taught.
My doctor thinks I’m nuts.
Everyone does but that’s OK.
Keeping people on the lifestyle is so important. Wish we could do more.
I’ve determined that it’s not what we eat, it’s how we use it. We each have to learn what our body is capable of today and then apply highly personalized tweaks to help it change.
This is not uncommon. (Which, if you cancel the two negatives, means “This is common.” 
). If you know who Adele Hite is (this is her website: https://eathropology.com/), she lamented that she was on low fat and exercising a ton and not only not losing but gaining. Her doctor did not believe her.
I think it is possible to continue to lose weight. There are many things to try. If you find a food (for me, bacon, nuts, yogurt) where you always eat too much of it or you treat it like dessert (can eat it even if full), then eliminate/reduce that. Try moving away from pork and chicken to beef. Try not eating dairy. Try more fat (animal fat, though cacao butter is good too), or less fat and higher protein. Or maybe try one then another.
If you are unhappy and want to try to lose weight, keep going.
You just summed up the near-universal epiphany of the newly-keto:
Stage One: Wait…whut? You mean “science” had it wrong?
Stage Two: Hey, this is tasty. And easy. And…why are you all looking at me like that?
Stage Three: This is actually working, why is everyone denying my reality?
Stage Four: I’m healthy now! You can do it, too! Why won’t you people just listen to me?!
Stage Five: (chews bacon quietly and watches the world burn)
Twins, she and I are twins.
I’ve been camping in the Steak and Water room for some time, now. If I remove anything else, my parents will have to cross several states to identify the body and they hate to fly.
Bwaha bwaha bwaha bacon! Bacon! Bacon!
Thank god for bacon and cream cheese. I can do ANYTHING now! 
No different than somebody eating SAD, Keto doesn’t equal weight loss. The problem is always in the diet. I hit a point when I couldn’t loose anymore doing what I was doing… but that was self created. I didn’t want to count calories, didn’t want to track anything, I just wanted to do the whole eating to satiety thing and that was the cause of not only a year of plateau but trying to fix the problem I created myself with fasting then screwed my metabolism on top of it.
I think most people say they’ve done everything they could do, but in reality they did everything they (wanted) to do. I was always honest with myself on that one, but still screwed myself just the same.
Totally agree. Not eating carbohydrates, without dietary fat you’d be near death … or perhaps on the other side of it.
Eating healthfully and exercising wisely produces what - for your body - is its healthiest composition given your age, fitness, and perhaps most importantly, your DNA.
A keto way of eating seems to support this for most folks. 
I was listening to a podcast today about the evils of seed oils. I’m wondering how much of people’s troubles with losing weight may have something to do with the amount of unhealthy seed oils we’ve been told to use over the years.
It’s very long, but if you have time to listen to it, you may find it very interesting.
Geez, no kidding.
Shout out to those of us dedicated enough to doing the things we definitely do NOT want to do but are sticking with it despite seeing minimal results compared to others AND getting called lazy for it.
I don’t know how bad for you they really are, but they spectacularly fail my unprocessed preference for food (still undecided on cold pressed oils). The evidence seems reasonable and plausible, from mostly people not telling me to buy something.
I don’t believe they bring anything useful to the table and can’t see how excluding them can harm anything, so they’re out for me.
This is the truth, but you’ve got to be able to live with your WOE if you’re going to achieve any success. I did a HCLF experiment a little while back. It worked, but it was an awful experience and took a lot of willpower. Not something I could or would want to sustain.
Probably pretty close to none of it for most people. I don’t think they’re “healthy” and don’t like how they’re made and would much rather a real fat to cook in, but I think it’s also just popular to hate them for now. Unless they’re a staple in somebody’s diet it probably makes little difference. Given that most people are getting them in from food being fried in them and how little is actually transferred in that process it’s unlikely they’re the cause of as much as they’re blamed for. I don’t see how there could be a link to current weight loss issues from past seed oil use. Especially given how many factors people ignore when they start blaming things for holding them up.
Tucker Goodrich makes a good case for the introduction of seed oils as being the driver of the “diseases of civilization” and not necessarily carbs.
It is episode 20 of the Peak Human podcast. (I couldn’t get the link to go through.)
