Interesting headline on MSN

(Jim) #1

In order to save the world we need a meat tax so that people in the US (and other high meat places) stop eating so much meat … the goal being a 90% reduction in beef and a 700% increase in beans.

Yum … beans … said no keto person ever!

(Chris) #2

We need a stupid tax instead.

#3

A few years ago they were calling for a fat tax…

(bulkbiker) #4

maybe we should call for a vegan self-righteous tax? for those who abuse non-vegans only of course…

#5

Thanks for the post, Jim! I think this is the article:

What a crock. Let me guess, a bunch of vegans are behind this study.

If everyone increases eating beans that much, won’t we then become a major source of greenhouse gases? Not a pretty sight…or smell.

No, thanks! I’ll stick with my steaks…no matter how much they cost.

#6

This guy has the answer. Try and find 22 mins to watch sometime.

Allan Savory works to promote holistic management in the grasslands of the world.
How to fight desertification and reverse climate Change.

(Doug) #7

Exactly! (And then we’d have to nuke the whales.)

(Bob M) #8

He also has a book, although I could only get it on Kindle.

(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #9

I could get behind eating bugs before stupid beans.

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #10

I like beans. But they can pry that cow from my cold dead hands.

#11

Ack! I’m horribly allergic to all beans, peas and lentils. Can’t even eat products with soy lecithin as an ingredient. (Just as well I don’t eat american cheese, ice cream, chocolate, canned soups or breads and cakes then.)

It’s a consequence, I believe these days, of getting a leaky gut from roundup-treated wheat, and/or being vegetarian for 15 years. I saw a nutritionist once who said getting an allergy to pulses is relatively common among vegetarians in the West, but I couldn’t back that up with research.

If it’s true though, this fine plan would just make more people unable to enjoy beans. I used to love them, I still miss baked beans, falafel, dahl… refreid beans, mole. Being keto now makes that easier though :smiley:

(Wendy) #12

:smiley::joy::sweat_smile::laughing:Yes this^ Greenhouse gas

#13

That was a pretty good article.

Of course, I didn’t get past the picture. :grin:

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#14

YUM! Beef…it’s what for dinner (and every meal)

#15

I thought this was debunked - that he had falsified some of his results? I’d love to find out that isn’t true.

(Brian) #16

That is interesting, and I believe it may be true. Some of my family spent a portion of the last 20 years or so as vegan and vegetarian. And a few of them have developed allergies. My wife is allergic to soy, and that is in dang near everything these days, and even in things I have a hard time figuring out why they ever even thought of putting soy into in the first place.

So now I guess they want to cram even more beans down our throats than the ones they hide in nearly everything.

Yeah, I eat a few beans, mostly greenbeans, and those are mostly beans that i grow myself. And that’s about as far as I’d care to go with that.

Maybe it’s time to buy that half cow from my neighbor and put it in the freezer.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #17

Peter Ballerstedt believes similarly. The TED site says that “experts” claim that cow farts from grazing the land will increase global warming. My understanding, however, is that cows don’t produce nearly as much methane when they graze, since grass is what they evolved to eat. It’s the grain they are fed that causes most of the methane. I notice that I don’t pass nearly as much gas, either, now that I’ve been keto for a year and a half.

(Running from stupidity) #18

Only accept grass-fed and grass-finished PaulL when purchasing.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #19

Yeah, I don’t do well anymore when grain-fed . . . :rofl::rofl:

#20

Never knew that, just came across the vid and posted link, never checked him out. So did a quick bit of research.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Savory

Savory received the 2003 Banksia International Award[9] and won the 2010 Buckminster Fuller Challenge.[10] Prince Charles called him "a remarkable man" and Joel Salatin wrote, “History will vindicate Allan Savory as one of the greatest ecologists of all time.”[11]

In contrast, James E. McWilliams described Savory as having "adherence to scientifically questionable conclusions in the face of evidence to the contrary".[8] George Monbiot said of him, "his statements are not supported by empirical evidence and experimental work, and that in crucial respects his techniques do more harm than good."[12] However, this comment has itself been subject to criticism in a later article published in the Guardian by Hunter Lovins entitled "Why George Monbiot is wrong: grazing livestock can save the world".[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._McWilliams

James E. McWilliams. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

James E. McWilliams (born 28 November 1968) is Professor of history at Texas State University. He specializes in American history, of the colonial and early national period, and in the environmental history of the United States. He also writes for The Texas Observer and the History News Service, and has published a number of op-eds on food in the New York Times , the Christian Science Monitor , and USA Today . Some of his most popular articles advocate veganism.

Why George Monbiot is wrong: grazing livestock can save the world

L Hunter Lovins: George Monbiot’s recent criticism of Allan Savory’s theory that grazing livestock can reverse climate change ignores evidence that it’s already experiencing success.

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Hear is a guy saying the same thing.

Cows, Carbon and Climate | Joel Salatin | TEDxCharlottesville

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z75A_JMBx4

Joel Salatin, an organic farmer located in the Shanendoah Valley in Virginia, loves his grass - and so do his cows. In this talk Salatin outlines the role that this often unsung hero of the plant world plays in sustainable farming, and the effects that its efficient utilization can have on the world around us.