IF vs Fat adaption

(Ketoviking) #1

I started back on Keto after being off about six months. I did gain weight back. My first time around KETO was very easy for me I lost 75 lbs and my body responded very well, I fat adapted quickly and my used fat as an energy source amazingly. I was taking four day hikes living off of almonds, hard salami and cheese. I also got into IF and was doing a 19/5 split. Recently i’ve been doing IM and the diabetic diet which employs oatmeal and lower carb…carbs :thinking:. However i’m Back to keto now and re-educating myself a bit.

So if my body has been fat adapted in the past and knows how to get there will it hurt if I continue to IF or even OMAD as my body seeks fat adaption again?

Will it be a slower process or could I risk not reaching fat adaption again.

Doing keto about 3 days at this point.

(bulkbiker) #2

Whats IM?

(Ketoviking) #3

:joy: IF Intermittent fasting. Obviously you haven’t reached the stage in keto that allows you to read minds Mark.

Sorry in my early morning brain IM meant IF. I work in a hospital and IM is intramuscular. Early morning keto brain sorry i’ll Edit it for correction.

(bulkbiker) #4

I thought that you had found a great new acronym…!

Thanks for clarification…

I did IF from the day I was diagnosed with T2 and still do so … I can’t see it doing any harm and I think fasting assists in speeding up fat adaptation anyway.

#5

Agree with Mark. Go back to what you know works for you and run with it all :slight_smile:

#6

Did you lose your fat adaptation? I am quite sure I didn’t do it even off keto. But I went back to my previous, low-carb diet.

I am quite sure it’s individual. I did IF on keto from the beginning, I didn’t even know IF is a thing, it was just the way I ate, it was very natural. Keto with forced non-IF on top, I would have surely quit… I don’t force eating times anyway.
It was fine and I honestly can’t imagine how it could hurt if IF suits someone and they eat properly on keto IF. If keto IF causes undereating, that’s surely a problem, of course.
IF can’t keep anyone from reaching fat adaptation, I’m quite sure as it makes no sense to me.

(Ketoviking) #7

That’s how it was for me as well. I was pretty satiated while doing keto due to the fat in take. Once I discovered IF it made it all the more easier. Psshhh Who wants to waste time eating right?

(mole person) #8

You may have lost some fat adaptation over six months but I don’t really believe that IF is ever bad, even for rank newbies to the ketogenic diet as long as they don’t mind a bit more hunger at the start of the diet. Fasting only gets you fat adapted faster.

Maybe. It can. Many people find that yo-yoing in and out of keto results in slower weight loss in subsequent attempts; at least initially.

No. If you eat ketogenically you will fat adapt.

Welcome back and good luck! :hugs:

(Ketoviking) #9

That’s what I was wondering, if your body has fat adapted do you lose it or does your body just switch between sources of energy whether carb burning or fat burning? I would think more of the latter. I know the last several days back eating keto has been very easy. Partly I think because I know what to expect but the IF has been very easy which makes me “assume” body knows to switch back over the fat burning.

(bulkbiker) #10

Or prepping veg!

#11

it is a difficult question. Your initial reaction that your body “remembers” being fat adapted make sense and is likely how the we used to eat but there is the other side of switching between keto and carbs can cause problems during the switch.
Ivor Cummings in a conversation with a cardiologist indicated it can cause inflammation.

To your question IF or more accurately time restricted eating is fine for long term WOE. You just have to watch doing the same thing over and just not eating enough. There is a 2KD podcast “Switching it up” which discusses it.

In regard to your food you should find a way to eat that works for you for the long term. Just saying to me almonds and salami maybe expand it a bit :slight_smile:

In regard to exercise. Keep in mind excercise (and getting outside) is for health not weight loss.
Extra calories burned during exercise have to be accounted for in how much you eat or your body will slow down. Steven Finney had a study which proved this clearly.

Good luck and welcome back!

#12

or throwing rotten veg from the fridge into the garbage ya never used :slight_smile: