IF Scary moment


(Gill Martin) #1

Not sure if I should’ve added this to the Skipping Meals post but…

I had a scary couple of days recently, I decided to try IF, the first day I went till lunchtime, the next day I missed out lunch got to evening and still wasn’t hungry but felt ‘I should eat’ so made a cheese salad, the next day I still didn’t feel hungry all day, but felt like rubbish, sat on the the sofa all day dropping off to sleep. (fortunatly i’m retired) I wasn’t sure what was going on but couldn’t bring myself to cook. The following day, still feeling rubbish, I realized I was getting a sore thoat & one of my glands was up (under left ear). After googling I figured something must be going on with my thyroid or cortisone level (all guess work – hate going to doc’s). I went back to 3 (normal keto) meals a day & after a couple of days my gland/sore throat dissapeared.
I realize now that I just couldn’t eat enough in the evening to compensate for the lack of food during the day.
Should I give up any idea of fasting?


(Tom Seest) #2

Possibly. For now.

I only fast if it is easy for me, and non-stressful.

You may want to retry it later on…


(Zu) #3

Hello @Gill_Martin,

IANAD… but, on one of my 30 day fasts, My thyroid (which is perfectly lovely and healthy - usually) swelled up to a good egg size. I had a bit a scary spaz, and became sooky, emotional… then a tad puffy and swollen in face, hands and feet… then, chest pain, then itchiness…
AHHHAH! I realised… all signs of electrolyte depletions. so I had himalayan sea salt in water, and broke open a mag capsul, put a pinch in water, then next glass I had, a pinch of calcium power, then next glass I had a pinch of silica, then next glass I had a pinch of bi-carb. I soaked my feet in Epsom salts and potash (and admittedly i did the pinch in water thing with those too)… not rushed all nicely spaced out…
and I went on to finish a 30 day fast. all my symptoms went away (still a bit sooky till I ended the fast though…)

So next time you may consider it could be your electrolytes possibly -


(Gill Martin) #4

lol you are funny:grin:
I think you are very brave (or better informed than me p’raps). I have to be careful, I live on my own in the middle of nowhere so who’d walk the dogs & let out the chickens if I start fainting all over the place!?
Though to be serious, I try to be careful with vits & minerals, I take pink salt in water with apple cider vinegar every morning, multi vits, magnesium tabs, never had the nerve to take potassium, there’s so many conflicting views on it.
Many thanks Zu


(Zu) #5

ME too! thankfully I have a few people buzzing around me though!

Good stuff with the salt and acv.
Yes I was a bit nervous about Potassium chloride - knowing that is what the leathal injection is… but the I read a remarkable story about how it saved a chap from heart attack! and how we NEED it… but sadly the gov likes to keep all that stuff hushhush…
So I asked hubby to pick me up a sack from the produce shop LOL of potash K-CL… now I have a very good supply and I share with my fruit trees! win-win…

Many conflicting views… sometimes the left of field ones are beauties though!


(Ethan) #6

I worry a lot about potassium. I take Losartan, which can cause hyperkalemia–especially with potassium supplementation.


(Teresa Driver) #7

I’m on Zestoretic and have found that I have to use more salt than potassium to keep from having electrolyte imbalance. If you have ever been hyperkalemic, you will recognize it again and a pinch of salt under your tongue will shut it down. If you haven’t been, the major signs are low blood pressure, high heart rate, and weakness.


(Ethan) #8

I have never been hypokalemic. I take losartan to keep my blood pressure below normal already. How would salt (sodium) increase potassium?


(Teresa Driver) #9

My apologies. I am a little distracted and got the terminology wrong. The symptoms I was describing were for hyperkalemia i.e. too much potassium. Salt and potassium balance one another out in the kidneys, so if you are having symptoms of too much potassium (really low blood pressure, dizziness, weakness, high heart rate, muscle spasm) taking salt will bring the sodium-potassium balance back. I don’t get truly high potassium (well once, but it was an cider vinegar incident), but I do get extremely low sodium relative to my potassium level which causes the same symptoms.


(Ethan) #10

How low is really low? I try to shoot for 90/60 now, but I end up around 100/50 often already.


(Blyss (Old @Charmaine)) #11

Were you attempting to eat one meal a day?


(Gill Martin) #12

not really…i was thinking lunch and dinner would be fine but I got to lunchtime and didn’t fancy anything, I thought i’d have a big dinner but then when it got to evening the thought of food was horrible…just continued like this, it was if something had just ‘switched off’. At first i thought it was great but it did get scary when i started feeling ill.