If keto people are fasting so frequently, how is that any different from a starvation diet?

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(Failed) #82

I’m going to be documenting mine. Currently, my tummy apron folds over to a depth of 1 1/2 inches. I have been in ketosis since at least 6/27/19. I may have been in ketosis earlier. I started low carb on 6/14/19, but didn’t get test strips until the 27th.

I did a 7 day (-4 hrs) fast from 7/15/19 to 7/22/19, but not really interested in eating, so nearly fasting since then.


(Parker the crazy crone lady) #83

I am definitely one who will feel “hungry”, when in fact I’m bored, or stresses, or have a craving. If I drink water or coffee or go out and do something, anything, it almost 100% of the time immediately passes. Im sure I’m not the only one.


(Patricia) #84

Thanks. I am going to try several of the suggestions that people have offered. For the next few weeks, I’m going to be the human guinea pig. :grinning:


(Patricia) #85

Keep me informed. Right now I look like an old lady in a sack. It’s bad too, because I still have fat around my midsection, so I can’t just squish it all in with a compression garment of some kind.


(Failed) #86

I feel your pain. When I lost 80 pounds many years ago, I looked at myself and was so sad. Explained to my husband that I’d always felt fat but I had never felt ugly. Now I’m dealing with that skin plus whatever loose skin I get from my goal of losing another 60 or 70 pounds.


(Joleena CLoudDancer Mogle) #87

I wanted to do this so badly, but every time I try, I get so light headed and dizzy. I did have WLS in 1014 and I’m hypoglycemic.


(Patricia) #88

It’s nice to see others here who are my age. I was probably diabetic, too, but I was in denial. Now that I have been able to stick to low carb eating, I feel so much better. Praying that things go well with you.


(Patricia) #89

Starting yesterday, I ate more during the day and stopped eating after dinner. I felt a lot better and was not hungry. I’m going to try to decrease the eating window and keep carbs as low as possible. I really appreciate the helpful info I have received on this thread. My optimism has returned. :grinning:


(Susan) #90

That is awesome, Patricia, I am glad =)).


(traci simpson) #91

Do you want to keep feeling bad? it’s a choice that you have to make and “giving up things you love” find new things to love that fit into KETO.


(Patricia) #92

Oh, I know… I’m just being a big baby. :grin:


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #93

There’s a lot of wisdom in what @Diygurl19 said here to @Tulip that we can all benefit from learning. You could just as easily call “the things you love” a “rut”. Finding it difficult to “give up the things you love” is no different from “being stuck in a rut”. It’s just another way to say you’re doing what you’re doing because you’ve done it for a long time and are comfortable doing it.

The context here, of course, is that many of those things you’ve done and find comfort doing are also preventing good health or even slowly destroying whatever good health you still have. To climb out of a hole you must first stop digging and to get out of a rut you must first stop wallowing in it. In the specific context of nutrition, I prefer to say “abandon” rather than “give up”. Abandon implies positive action, whereas give up implies surrender. You take action to gain better health. You are not giving up anything that matters to that, whatever might be the specific “things you loved”. So you have the choice of wallowing in the passive ‘giving up’ of nothing of particular value, or actively embracing the real good you have chosen as the alternative.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming. :wink:


(Patricia) #94

Ha, ha, I like your graphic. I could use that one sometimes.


(Raj Seth) #95

The ketogenic WOE is also described sometimes as a FMD or a fasting mimicking diet. This is because when following this WOE, ones body is behaving (hormonally) similarly to if one were fasting, i.e. burning fat and generating ketones and free fatty acids for fueling the body. Whether the fat comes from internal spare fat stores or from ingested fat is interchangeable. Of course, if one has plenty of spare fat stores, and one is fully fat adapted, then hunger can disappear, since the body has no shortage of necessary substrate to fuel itself

That there is the key to “no hunger” and ease of fasting