I need help 🙏

(Damon Chance) #33

He just said maybe you should go be k to doing what the original doctor said to do.

(Allie) #34

i don’t see he did anything wrong. He didn’t diagnose anything, just advised the OP to go back on the meds their own doctor had prescribed that never should have been stopped so abruptly.

(Meghan O'leary) #35

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Thank you Meghan, I understand every body is different but if you don’t mind please share how long did it take for you to loose the 22lbs…

Was it gradual or did it take a while to start and continue loosing.
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For me, I lost about 8 pounds right away. I’m not on any meds and am not currently using birth control for hormone regulation ( I should though, just haven’t renewed my prescription) Most of those 8lbs was water I’m sure. Then it was slow. I’d lose a few pounds here and there then nothing for 10 days but I just stuck with it. My weight loss has been spread out over 3 months. Not super fast by any means, but it’s been the easiest weight I’ve ever lost. Just be patient with yourself is my best advice.

(Consensus is Politics) #36

I agree. I stopped mine because I was taking 1,000 mg 2x a day. And when I accidentally missed a day, I felt better and my BG continued to improve, and still does after month and a half of no Metformin.

I’ll be seeing my doctor in about two weeks and will consult with her about taking the Metformin to a much lower dose to simply help with the diet, instead of my diet trying to help the meds.

(Consensus is Politics) #37

[EDIT: I officially remove my endorsement of the CVS brand glucometer. It has been off horribly. As much as 60 points. This morning I tested with it, I showed 164. Yowza, Test again, 158, sigh… Test again, 138. I then tested with the one the VA gave me (that has test strips that cost $1 each). It showed me 109, with a second test of 108. I tested with the cvs brand again, 148 :face_with_raised_eyebrow:]

I bought a CVS brand glucometer for $10 (regular price was $19, still affordable in my opinion) and the test strips are the cheapest I’ve seen as well. Pack of 50 for $12. I’ve been checking my BG very often. I keep track of it as well. And I mean keep track as in what time I ate, what I ate, how much I ate, the time I tested BG. I even take notes about my bike riding. I’m getting improvements all around.

For instance, I can see a sudden shift in my heart rate while riding. My standing heart rate was 90. On the bike after 10 to 15 minutes it would max out at 125. It would take maybe 10 to 20 minutes to return to 90. But now it’s starting at 80ish, and climbs to a max of 110ish (I think it went as high as 113). I write this stuff down so I. An see the correlations. Correct if you say correlation is not the same as causation, but hey, it’s at least looking in the right direction. With enough data I will be able to say with pretty good certainty that this causes that.

So Test often. And right it down.

(Consensus is Politics) #38

Nothing wrong with advice. He isn’t diagnosing anyone. I’d be very concerned at that. Telling someone that maybe they should go back and do what their doctor told them to do is perfectly responsible.

Now, had he told her to stop Keto, and go eat a diet based on the Standard American Diet based on the 1977 food pyramid, then I think he should be sued for malpractice, along with anyone who is currently indorsing that piece of lesé.

(Bunny) #39
(88) #40

Thank You everyone for your time and inputs. Esp Manu - Knusperflocke for introducing me to such an amazing group and VLC.MD for suggesting I restart my metformin. Without any change in the diet and just adding 500mg / day of metformin I lost 5 pounds from Christmas Eve. I am was about to give up on Keto after 38 days because of no results but in 9 days I lost 5 lbs and it’s such a hopeful wonderful feeling to start the new year! Thank You again everyone :pray::pray::pray:

(Darlene Horsley) #41

Bravo!!! Well done and Happy New Year!!

(Candy Lind) #42

@Eightyeight, keep on plugging! Every one of us is in a unique situation. So many people lose quickly when they start keto that it makes it a bit discouraging for those of us who don’t see those fast results. I’m not diabetic, but my metabolism is so whacked out from 60 years of SAD and yo-yo dieting that it’s taking some time for the ship to right itself. I’ve lost 45 pounds since April (first 6 weeks of that was CICO, then a friend convinced me to try keto). That’s not a lot compared to others, but I’m happy with it because (a) my leaky gut is healing in the absence of grains, sugars and additives; (b) my thyroid is functioning better than it has in years; and © I don’t feel like I’m starving all the time! That’s a lot to be thankful for.

One other comment - I’ve seen lots of anecdotal stories and have had some experience with cow’s milk products causing stalls or even weight gain, and some keto folks go dairy free for that reason. There are a lot of people who are “milk sensitive” without being lactose intolerant. It looks as if you have plenty of other options for protein and fat, so that’s something to think about/try at some point in the future if you need to adjust something. I know too much cheese brings my weight loss to a grinding halt. I love the stuff, so it’s easy to work to much into the eating plan. Just another thought to add to the mix.

Happy New Year! It’s going to be a great one. :star_struck:

(Ketomanu) #43

I am so thrilled for you!!! I am so glad you kept sticking with it. Looking forward to more success postings from you! :heart:

(Candy Lind) #44

Just looking back to see how things were going for you, @Eightyeight - so, how are things going?? Is it still a Happy New Year? :innocent:

(EightyEight) #45

Thank you CandyLind for checking on me :slight_smile::pray:
The list is very gradual like half a pound in two days , sometimes nothing but overall I feel good . I also notice a spike in my weight 3 lbs when I indulge in yogurt/ curd made of hwc. In spite of it being within my macros. This has happened twice so far . It takes 2/3 days for the spiked weight gain to vanish again. :joy: otherwise though weight loss is slower than snails pace I am glad the scale is at least moving :joy:
The HWC is really a mystery because my other day source too is mostly from diary so not sure why hwc within macros is causing such a spike :roll_eyes:

100 days of Keto
(Candy Lind) #46

If anyone else reading this thinks I’m off-base, please say so! I’m not a vegetarian, but I have my own keto issues that I am struggling with, and it seems like I’ve found an information “treasure chest” with this forum, and I can’t help but want to help others as I am being helped.

@Eightyeight, I know it’s still early on for you, but this WOE in most cases is pretty open to “N=1 experimentation” - ie., finding what’s right for you. Would you consider trying an elimination diet to see if dairy (or even just “cow dairy”) is what’s holding you back? If so, poking around on some vegetarian/vegan boards might help you find enough fat/protein variety to keep you within your macros. This topic, while it includes dairy, has some links to some other places you can look at for menu ideas and/or substitutions - including a few sub-Reddit’s & FaceBook groups. Or you could just “keep it simple” and go to coffee with Ghee (eliminates milkfat) and/or coconut oil (I ADORE butter coffee & tea!) along with olive/avocado/nut oils for your fat (homemade mayo is DA BOMB), & lots of eggs, and see how you do in a week. If eliminating cow dairy seems to help, then go looking for more menu ideas to keep your brain happy as well as your metabolism.

(Andrew) #47

One thing to remember about hwc is that it has a huge surface area. Iow, it will be absorbed really fast compared to firm food. That’s why shakes are terrible as well. $0.02

(Ketomanu) #48

Does that mean we should avoid it? (It’s a staple for sure in my kitchen :slight_smile: )

(Ketomanu) #49

I am so glad to hear that the scale is moving! No matter how slowly, it is moving into the right direction. I will take it! The cream you are using, is it organic? Regular cream often has other stuff added to it. Maybe those chemicals are the cause of what makes it so much harder for you.

(Andrew) #50

Absorbed quickly means a bigger insulin response which is what we are trying to avoid.

It might be great in cheese sauce with broc and bad plain in coffee. Just see what your blood glucose does. It’s the only way to learn these things for each different person.

(Richard) #51

***My Experience

For the past ninety day I have been using fasting to give my keto inclinations more teeth. Interpreting my Ketonix numbers I am mostly at a modest level of ketosis. Spikes sharply up with extended fasts. I use a combination of 24 hour fasts , every 6 weeks +or- a 7 day fast.

I chart blood pressure, Ketonix readings, circumference and weight. But, I don’t screw around with worrying about ratios. Instead I eat items on Dr. Westman’s eat this sheet as a guide.

Like many others I have read, experimented, listened to podcasts, viewed videos and contemplated. I have decided what works for me. I try to avoid noise of blathering idiots.

Guess that means I think I can identify them. Hope they don’t get better at stealth mode. I also reflect on the times I have been proven wrong.

Names that steered me in the right direction — Fung, Phinney, Volek, Westman

Fung advice to give myself a break if I stray and baseline fasting info is useful.

This is from a not diabetic, who has seen 340 pounds. A person who has lost 100 pounds and regained all of them. It is from a person who feels in control — largely by adding fasting to keto. It is from a smiling person that sees steady weight/inches lost.

I also do modest resistance band exercise based on the Resistance Bands Workbook

This is a celebration post for this quarters positive results. Yea!

(Candy Lind) #52

I never thought of it that way! I don’t like drinking my calories, anyway; now I have a good reason!