I have found a home!

(Tim W) #1

Hello keto community!

I am so glad to have found a “home” to learn from others, share my experiences, and commiserate with.

A quick about me:

42 year old male, married 24 years, two kids, retiring from US military.

I “stumbled into” keto via IF. I am a runner, I love it and won’t stop doing it. A year ago I was running lots of miles but I was ALWAYS tired. I was trying to figure out why so I did some research, wondering if I didn’t need to eat MORE carbs EARLIER in the morning. I came across IF.

I started going 12 hours, then 16, 24, etc. etc. etc. Eventually I worked up to a five day fast and I felt SOOOOOO good. I HAD to figure out why… it was the ketones!

So, we (the wife joined me in this trip when I went from 180 to 160 and got kinda ripped) started eating keto (kind of dirty keto to be honest, we don’t run numbers on ratios yet and we drink lots of beer… :blush:) this last January.

We are currently still using fasting protocols (I’m on day 10 of a 15 day fast, my longest) and, once we “come out of” this current fasting stage, we are going to hit keto hard, start tracking ratios much tighter and go longer periods without the beer.

The wife wants to lose another 40 pounds (she’s down 25 from the middle of last year just from cutting sugars [and we really didn’t have that much to cut, we’ve been low sugar for years!] and more of the refine carbs). Wife needs to get 100% off metformin and reduce abdominal obesity.

Me, I like keto/fasting for the autophagy and longevity aspects. I’ve got a family history of diabetes, Alzheimer’s and lots of other junk, trash DNA baby, gotta turn off those markers! In addition, I LOVE being a keto adapted distance runner. I’ve run multiple marathons and a 50K (31 miles) with ZERO intake and not having eaten since the night before (screw pre-run carb loading!), while everyone around me is pumping goos and jells and blocks and gatorade, I just keep on trucking. I’ve even found that in cool weather, I don’t even have to take in water during the run. I ran an entire marathon on 2 sips of water (it was 41 degrees though…).

I look forward to reading every ones stories/tips/tricks and sharing my experiences. It’s good to have found somewhere I can share these things. I found the podcast 3 months ago and have been meaning to get to this forum, I wish I had done so earlier.

Take care! “See” you around the place.

#2

What an interesting read and a nice introduction. Really glad to have you on board. It sounds like you are going to join all the great contributors we have here already - it’s a fabulous place.

(Tim W) #3

Thanks Daisy!

I even love the message board system (Had to open it in firefox, thank GOD work finally installed something other than a 2004 version of IE!). I’m not used to all this functionality in a BBS!

See you around the boards!

#4

Er you have lost me now!!!

(eat more) #5

hi Biff :hugs:

@daisy he was using antiquated technology and now he’s got fancier stuffs to make being part of the fam easier :blush:

#6

thanks for the translation x

(Roxanne) #7

So cool that you can run those distances without supplementation! Has your time improved at all?

(Michelle) #8

Welcome!! Great story, glad you found us!

(Tim W) #9

@daisy he was using antiquated technology and now he’s got fancier stuffs to make being part of the fam easier :blush:

Exactly right.

BBS is what we used to use (back in ancient times… the 90s!) to have these kinds of online conversations. You had to use a dial up to reach them, AOL and other services sprang from them, then along came the WWW and ruined everything!

(It’s actually still kind of fun to google BBS and pick one, most of them are on the web now, it can be a DEEP rabbit whole though so approach with caution!).

Thanks for the translation mikki, and hello to you as well.

(Tim W) #10

Thanks MKC. I’ll try not to run my mouth too much!

(Tim W) #11

Roxanne,

I’ve found that training fasted/on keto requires slower times.

I’m ran 12 miles after five days of fasting and my times were 45 seconds slower. For running keto, on a 12 hour fast, with no supplementation during the run, I run about 30 seconds slower than my older “carb fueled” times.

I expect that as I continue to train using keto (I don’t do much of the long runs during a long fast anymore) that my times will speed up as I become more and more adapted.

  • Holy crap, the board just gave me a suggestion on how to reply better, that’s awesome! This is some cool tech! I’ll follow it’s suggestion next time, sorry for all the small posts!

EDIT

I can’t reply anymore today :frowning:

I’ll respond to everyone tomorrow!

(Roxanne) #12

From what I’ve read, keto is great for unfueled endurance, but not necessarily speed (especially sprinting and the like). Sounds like you’re doing amazingly well.

Hmmm, I don’t remember the board giving me advice on how to reply…or maybe I’ve already forgotten. The more I use the forum, however, the more I like the tech.

(Jaidann) #13

Welcome! Love your story!

(Lee Jones) #14

Welcome Biff, that was a great read and I’m full of admiration for your athleticism. Keep up the good work my friend :+1:t3:

(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #15

Keto + endurance sports = a match made in heaven

(Tim W) #16

Agreed! I love running the long ones, just moving along while other folks are watching the clock, counting down the minutes until it’s time for another jell etc.

I was surprised when I showed up to the 50K and they had 2 litter bottles of mountain dew/other sugar soda on the snack table. I mentioned how strange that was to a fellow who had a couple of those big runs under his belt and he told me that at races of that distance, it’s all about the sugar after 4-5 hours, runners were stopping every 3-5 miles for another sugar hit, reminded me of experimental rats in a cage, getting their sugar hits, but hey, whatever works, I’m just glad keto works for me.

Cheers Brenda!

(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #17

I believe it was Steven Phinney who has an online lecture about endurance athletes. Be sure and check it out!
Here’s one from Phinney’s co-author Jeff Volek.

(eat more) #18

i was trying to tell a new client who is a runner today that endurance running is absolutely possible on keto…she wasn’t buying it :joy:

i left it at “seriously check it out there’s a lot of data out there”

edit: i may have even mentioned “a guy on the forum i belong to” @infromsea :blush: ok…i totally did lol

(8 year Ketogenic Veteran) #19

Here’s another @infromsea by Phinney
https://youtu.be/GkQYZ6FbsmI

(Tim W) #20

I can understand her POV.

I’ve been running for years and we are told that there are rules that are inviolate. You MUST carb load the day before, you MUST consume carbs every 45 minutes while running, you MUST eat within 30 minutes of finishing the run.

It turns out, all of that stuff is geared towards preventing the bonk (which is NOT pleasant) but, fat adapted runners need not worry (which you know of course). I could almost swear I’ve been out running, starting out in a low/non-keto state and, around mile 16 (2 1/2 hours in) could feel the physiological switch from carbs (ok, might have drank a LOT of beer the day before taking me out of keto) to fat. I’d get VERY tired and the feeling that I needed to quit running would be overwhelming, I’d slow my pace, put my head down and keep moving forward, and then, 4-5 minutes later, I’d fill a rush of energy followed by the ability to increase my pace and run the next couple of hours at a much faster pace! In addition, I’ve had only what I can describe as brain “flutters” as a I passed through that state, followed by what was obviously a keto-fueled energy.

Just like the nutrition/diet world, runners have a very similar body of knowledge that CAN’T be questioned, it’s become gospel (and lots of companies benefit from selling to it…) and it’s going to be HARD to overcome. I think that as keto gains public understanding, this way of exercise will as well.

I’m glad to provide at least one example of alternative fueling methods.