I GAINED weight :(


#1

One week in. I ate a lot the first couple days but within my macros. I did not cheat whatsoever. No sweeteners except stevia. No dairy. No grains. Never over 50g protein and 20g carbs. No possibility of hidden carbs. I measure and calculate everything. Exercised. Drank stupid amounts of lemon water.

The only ideas I have are lemon juice upping my carbs, water retention, muscle gain (I trained), or plain ol fat gain.

So discouraged.


(Carpe salata!) #2

post some more info ā€¦ height, weight, BMI, why you are trying ketoā€¦

Regardless, obvious answer is obvious

ā€”> Keep Calm and Keto On :smile:


#3

5ā€™10", now 178lbs (I used to be 145lbs, but gained over six months after a difficult life situation).

Iā€™m trying keto to lose weight and control my diet.

Obvious?


(Carpe salata!) #4

(The obvious was the KCKO)

Thanks. Iā€™m around 5/10 and maybe 220lb at presentā€¦ thing is, I like feeling so much better on keto. No constant headaches, feeling ravenous, joint pain, vasculitis, BP, doc said i was on the verge of diabetes ā€¦

At some time, I know it will happen, i will get big into fasting and dropping that last 40-50lb . But currently Iā€™m just chilling , enjoying being much more healthy on keto.


#5

I know what you mean. I do feel better. No more ravenous hunger. I actually reach a point when Iā€™ve had enough, which used to be rare for me.

Chilling on keto, however, is not enough for me. No offence to your own experience. I want to lose. The last 5-6 days, Iā€™ve been making sure thereā€™s a deficit of anywhere from 100-400 calories/day, while still feeling full and nourished.

I should be losing. :frowning:


(Carpe salata!) #6

Iā€™d say you are losing - but probably in the sense of ā€˜reconfiguringā€™. I found I lost a lot of gut ā€˜fatā€™ in the way of needing to use way different holes in my belt before the weight actually showed much on the scales. Stick with it.


#7

Hi! Your writing seems incredibly down and incredibly discouraged.

How many calories a day have you been eating? What are you eating?

Keto adaption and changes at the cellular level takes time, months even. Youā€™re in the first week? What results were you wanting or what do you think it was supposed to be?


(James storie) #8

I think you need to watch the lemon juice. Youā€™re probably getting a lot more carbs than you realize. It could be enough to keep insulin up.


#9

I agree with James on the lemon juice. But I would encourage you to also take measurements and photos. If you are gaining muscle, you are losing weight without knowing it. How are your clothes fitting? I would not worry about having a calorie deficit either, but that probably isnā€™t an issue since youā€™re eating until full.

Can you post what you eat in a day?


#10

@KetoPICUrn

I didnā€™t expect to lose the first week, but I also didnā€™t expect to gain 4 lbs.

Here are a few sample days of food:


#11

I read that drinking lemon juice is a good idea while on a ketogenic diet because of an alkalinity issue. But, I will dial it down or stop and see if it isnā€™t raising my carbs.


#12

It looks like youā€™re intermittent fasting dinner.


#13

Itā€™s interesting you gained. I basically eat the same as what youā€™ve listed. I initially lost a ton of water weight then cruised at the same weight but clothes fit differently.

Stress and cortisol levels can effect it too. Your writing is intense.

I do hope you feel better and keep at it. It does get better and the weight does come off.


#14

Iā€™m curious why you write ā€œincrediblyā€ and why you think my writing is intense? Is it because I wrote that I went through a difficult life situation? Itā€™s true that Iā€™m under a lot of emotional stress, recovering from something, but I donā€™t see the intensity in my writing that you see.

Yes, Iā€™m intermittent fasting dinner.

Itā€™s good to get feedback that what Iā€™m eating is on target, minus the lemon, which Iā€™ve now cut out. Thanks for your feedback!


(John) #15

It may be nothing, but iā€™m a little confused by your MFP. This looks like way more fat than I ever ate even at 255, but the math isnā€™t working out in your totals which is a little concerning, for example your last day shows 183 grams of fat which is 1,647 calories which is higher than your total shows. If those numbers are off iā€™m wondering how accurate it all is.

This leads me to another possibility which is you eating fat to try to hit a macro number? That last day I see you ate olive oil at breakfast along with quite a lot of bacon fat. The prep for bacon and eggs doesnā€™t require what 7 tablespoons of fat.

Then at lunch more oil for seemingly no reason, maybe it goes with Avocados?

Just curious if you are thinking you need to hit a goal number for fat everyday and are eating fat purposely to reach it. Looking back at my MFP I see my fat was rarely over my protein which is why yours stood out.


(James storie) #16

I donā€™t know anything about alkalinity, Iā€™ve been keto for almost 3 years and havenā€™t worried about anything like that. All I know is the lemon juice is technically fruit juice, it has carbs, if you are consuming a lot in your water just to manage taste it will add up.


(Adam Kirby) #17

First of all you literally have to train your body to burn fat if youā€™re coming from a lifetime of glucose powered eating, and that can take time. Getting frustrated this early on is not a recipe for long-term success. Also it doesnā€™t sound like you have overly much to lose, so you need patience. Now for dietary changes I personally think an all meat and eggs diet for people like us who donā€™t have too much to lose, is a very powerful approach. I am getting off doing it for 2 weeks and dropped 5-6 pounds of fat, frankly more than I anticipated. And I was stalled for 6 months on a normal low carb diet. I wouldnā€™t worry about too much protein at all. So basically KCKO, and if youā€™re in the same boat after a month or more try all meat. But you gotta take a more long term attitude here.

+also, this is why itā€™s crucial to take waist measurements. So if you DO gain weight you can quickly guess whether itā€™s fat or not.


(Candice) #18

I looked up the amount of carbohydrates in lemon juice - 5g in one 2 1/8" lemon. Thanks for bringing up carbs in lemon juice, never crossed my mind.


#19

My advice, give your scale to someone you dislike. If you insist on weighing yourself do it next on this day in 2018 and report back. I think youā€™ll be pleased.

On a serious note, you canā€™t expect your body to burn fat before you train your body to burn fat. As obvious as that sounds I feel like we keep circling back to the same solution: KCKO.


#20

Oh dear, I never even considered that I might be overeating. Iā€™ll be sure to check the entries against nutrition info to see if theyā€™re accurate.

Iā€™ve read a lot on this forum to ā€œeat more fatā€, especially in the beginning. Iā€™m trying to eat 80% fat, no more than 20g of carbs, and protein to make up the difference. Admittedly, Iā€™m not sure how much protein to eat.

I donā€™t use fat only for prep. I add it on top.