I eat too much!


(Melika) #1

I love veggies. I love them and i eat too much. I also eat too much of everything. I am just on the edge of being in keto. My metabolism is messed up. Any tricks? I hate measuring and weighing. Just going back to journaling. Would love any advice.
I ate 1544 cals
.69% fat
Protein 24
Carbs 5


#2

Afraid not. It’s science not magic :slightly_smiling_face:


#3

How tall are you and how much do you weigh, because 1500 doesn’t sound like too much.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #4

The one “trick,” which is the essence of a well-formulated ketogenic diet, is to keep carbohydrate intake at a level below your personal threshold. I can’t tell from your post whether “Carbs 5” means 5 grams of carbohydrate, which is virtually guaranteed to be under your threshold, or 5% of 1544 calories, which comes to 77.2 grams of carbohydrate (a level more consistent with your great love for veggies), and which might very well be a problem.

The goal of a well-formulated ketogenic diet is to keep carbohydrate intake, which stimulates insulin secretion significantly, as low as possible in order to keep insulin as low as possible—because only when insulin is kept low can we return to metabolic health. On these forums, we recommend keeping carbohydrate intake under 20 grams a day. Unless your metabolism is badly deranged (in which case you would need to eat even less carbohydrate), keeping your carbohydrate intake under 20 g/day is guaranteed to get you into ketosis. By the third day of your doing that, your liver will be producing ketone bodies and the rest of your body will be busy with the changeover to full fat metabolism, a process which takes most people around six to eight weeks, but sometimes longer.

If you keep your carb intake low, the rest of this way of eating is more in the nature of tweaks.


(Running from stupidity) #5

non-magic-thinker

:+1:

:pray:


(Allie) #6

What makes you think that’s too much?


(Melika) #7

Sorry it was 7% carbs. I guess i am struggling with the portions. I don’t want a cup or 2 of salad, I want the whole big salad. 5 brussel sprouts doesnt cut it it and I want 15. I love them in butter or bacon.

So yesterday was an ok day, not realy dialed in, but days I go out for dinner, order a salad w grilled chicken, making a safe choice, I eat it all and blow my macros.

I am not losing weight.

I am in ketosis, per urine strips. I work out every other day or so. Weights and cardio. (I am on my second week!)

No tricks.‘sigh’
I need to become more accountable to myself.


(Running from stupidity) #8

Translation: I have barely started. As such, I will do what is required and will not demand miracles. It took me a long time to get into this condition and I do not expect it to be resolved in 10 days.


(Allie) #9

So you’ve just started a process that means your body has to change the way it performs every single bodily process as well as pushing it really hard with exercise, and are expecting instant fat loss while your body is in turmoil not knowing what it’s even supposed to be doing?

The more you exercise the more fuel your body needs, especially while you’re in the early stages of keto. If your chart above is accurate then there’s nothing at all wrong with 24g carbs. Work on keeping the carbs around that level and eat fats and protein to your appetite, do not limit calories and make sure you allow your body time to rest and recover.


(Melika) #10

The voice of reason.
Thank you.


(Melika) #11

Thank you.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #12

First of all, 24 g of carbohydrate should be fine. We recommend 20 g/day, for various reasons, but many people can handle more. On the other hand, the lower you can keep your carb intake, the better, because chronically elevated insulin causes so many problems in addition to fat storage, that the return to health usually involves keeping insulin as low as possible for as much of the day as possible.

One thing that may help is that, if you are in North America, the nutritional labeling for carbohydrate includes indigestible fiber, and many people feel safe subtracting that and only counting net carb intake. Of course, in most of the rest of the world, the carbohydrate number already excludes fiber, so if you really want to do total carbs, in those countries you have to add the fiber back in. Confused yet? :grin:

On the other hand, I am not a big fan of macros per se. The essence of a low-carb/ketogenic/insulin-lowering diet is to keep carbohydrate intake as low as possible, keep protein moderate, and fill in the rest of our calories with fat. Trying to eat to a target just does not appeal to me. Instead, i eat as little carbohydrate as I can (cravings, oy!) and eat enough to stop being hungry. These days, satiety has come to mean not just losing interest in food, but actively not wanting it—truly weird for someone who could eat most of a pound of pasta, have a belly ready to burst, and still be hungry!

In any case, I consider Brussels sprouts to be honorary bacon. Just fry them in some bacon grease, and you’re golden! :bacon:


(Brian) #13

My trick was, … Eat your protein and fat (often the same food) first.

Good luck!


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #14

At first I didn’t know what constituted a meal without the bread, pasta, etc. It was weird to just have two things or just one thing on my plate. It stems from years of “knowing” what a dinner is supposed to look like. It’s okay to have two pork chops for a meal or some cheese or a salad or a coffee, etc, as long as you’re keeping your daily carb intake low enough to remain in ketosis. It’s about learning what works for you.