I cant stop slipping

(Janet Smith) #1

I keep slipping and I hate it. I hit my first big goal. And then lowered it by 10lbs. Scale stopped moving and I’m getting discouraged and by that I eat… help…is there something I can do decrease my appetite or something??

(Mike W.) #2

How long have you been eating this way ?

(Janet Smith) #3

Been eating keto since the start of june. Been slipping for 2 weeks I feel… a month of no scale movement. My meals are still keto. Just the snacking …

(Running from stupidity) #4

Are you eating enough at mealtime?

(Frank) #5

What exactly do you mean by slipping? Are you saying that you’re eating more carbage? Just looking for clarification before proceeding. Thanks.

#6

Yeah I think this is a key question too. @Janet_Smith I know especially at the beginning, but even now occasionally, it’s the between-meals cravings for carbs that are harder to resist. For myself, I think the reason is that they have little to do with actual hunger (in which case I’d be perfectly happy to eat a steak) and rather just appetite (in which case I require something carby).

The thing that worked for me in the early stages wasn’t restricting snacks, though this is what’s best eventually, but rather being extra strict about what I eat during those snacks. I went pure fat (I mean, like butter between two slices of cheese) even though I really wanted a bowl of granola or something. The carb craving would go away after just a few slow bites, and I think eventually my body got used to the idea that throwing a craving-tantrum doesn’t get the carby results it used to. They just diminished over time. I wouldn’t swear this works for everyone but might be worth a try.

(Carissa JB) #7

Are you slipping by overeating keto friendly foods? ( my problem) . Or getting out of ketosis with carbs?

(Allie) #8

If you’re saying that you struggle to stick to a calorie deficit then the answer is simple, don’t try to. Keto is not a calorie restricting diet and trying to live in a deficit is not likely to help you at all.

Really we need more info though.

#9

For me, I had to really watch my snacks. I got rid of all of the carb-heavy snacks I could and made sure that I had good and decent options on hand. That meant salami, and beef jerky, pickles and jalapeno & garlic stuffed olives (Costco), as well as various nuts and cheese (babybel are the best – little individual pieces – again Costco). I know of others who make huge amounts of kale chips. Going to try that myself.

#10

Oh, I also forgot to ask, how close to your “ideal” weight are you? It’s really harder to lose the last 10-15%. Personally, I used step goals. My first goal was to be overweight by Christmas (5 months and 35 pounds). Nailed it. My second was to be normal by my anniversary (32 pounds in 5 months). Missed it by 10-12 pounds. Stayed between 172 and 178 for the next 5 months. Eventually just decided that BMI was bullshit and I was happy weighing somewhere around 172. Now I started sneaking down again and hover in the 167-170 range. No idea why. Sometimes it just takes time.

(Janet Smith) #11

I mean like eating stupid cookies or m&ms or some kind of chocolate:( when I first started I didnt snack at all. My hubby at keto snacks all the time but i figured if I’m changing the way i eat i dont need to snack. Then i started to snack keto. Then the last few weeks slippage! I dont know why. Maybe cause I’m a midnight worker and havent had my normal days off to meal prep like i normally did. Maybe cause the scale stopped moving. I dont know :frowning: my start weight was 189.8 and I’m 148.7 now.

(Frank) #12

You’re doing great and stalls are normal. Are these snacks in your house or at work. If they’re in your house throw them out now! No movement for a month is pretty typical the closer you get to goal weight. In my experience anyway. There are many threads on this forum which describe stalls and different ways to kick the weight loss back into gear again. Hint…not one of them includes carbage snacking :wink:. You’ll get there. Have faith in the process. Not all your healing is going to be evident on the scale.

(Frank) #13

I honestly don’t know how people work midnights. Kudos to you.

(Janet Smith) #14

Thank you. I need to get my head back into it. I know I can live without it and I would prefer not to eat the junk. It’s at both work and home. Midnights at a grocery store :no_mouth: 10 years of midnights. And I have a 5 and 7 year old. I know I’m not the first woman to have kids and work midnight but it is hard! I’ll have to search the stall threads. I know I’ve lost 40 , I was using the ketosis sticks but then they didnt show ketosis anymore. I was fat adapted I’m sure. But I never got any keto flu signs when I started and I definitely didnt get the energy boost either.

#15

That’s pretty rough, and you’ve done really well despite it. If you mean the urine strips there are reasons they may show negative even in ketosis but if you think it’s because of the extra sugar, still you shouldn’t sweat it too much, you can get back on the horse. Same with the lack of movement on the scale, there could be temporary stalls for all kinds of reasons.

You’ve had a ton of progress despite the difficulties of work and other obligations, and you clearly know how to do this. There’s another thread out there right now on the challenges of overnight shift work, with good discussion on ways to handle it. Maybe check that one out if you haven’t already. Best of luck to you!

(Blessed with butter ) #16

@Janet_Smith YOU are doing awesome! 189.8 to 147.8 what!!!
Great Job …I know snacking is tough, I make some fat bombs and that helps me.

#17

The trick is to avoid the stupid cookies a focus on the smart cookies. :slight_smile: Yeah, cookies are my number one crime partner. I can pass on chips, candy bars, pop, pasta, etc. Pretty much anything I can walk away from, but not cookies.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #18

Cheese between two slices of butter is another, rather messier, option, but just as tasty! :bacon:

ETA: In the early days, my treat was unsweetened chocolate, melted into some heavy cream and sweetened with stevia. It really helped with the cravings. These days I simply dispense with the stevia and the cream, but they helped a lot early on.

(Cynthia Anderson) #19

I eat 60 percent dark chocolate.

I do cheat a little though.
2 dark and 1 milk at a time in my mouth.

(Laurie) #20

A few suggestions. I hope these help:

Have grab-and-go foods for when you don’t have time for meal prep. This could be a hunk of cheese, a can of sardines, pork rinds–it doesn’t have to be pretty. It also doesn’t need to resemble a “meal,” as long as you’re getting your macros. Since you work in a store, I assume you can even buy these while you’re working if you didn’t manage to bring something.

When you do have time, cook a bunch of stuff, measure and put it in baggies, and stick the baggies in the freezer, ready to go: cooked Italian sausage, cooked patties, crumbled ground beef, leftover roast, etc. They will be thawed in time for your work mealtime.

I try to avoid snacking, but sometimes I give in. I find it helpful to really limit my options. For me these days, this means I can have 12 almonds or one ounce of cream cheese. Period. I do this maybe once a week. Maybe you can buy tiny bags of your favorite nuts, and put one in your purse and try to limit yourself to one bag a week (or whatever seems reasonable to you).

Keto snack recipes, buying keto snacks, etc., might be okay for some people. But for some of us they can lead to a slippery slope:

“The store is out of 90% chocolates, so I’ll buy these 65% ones.”
“That keto truffle recipe was so good, next time I’ll try making them with maraschino cherries.”
“I don’t have coconut flour, I guess I’ll use oat flour.”
Etc.

Good luck!