I believe spending more time in maintanence and repair (IF) equals a longer health span, possibly longer life span. IF controls BG levels, inflammation, and much more. IF is enjoyable. I enjoy eating big meals on a OMAD minimum (mostly 36 hrs. between meal IF). I lose weight. At 214 I wanted to go to 190. At 190 I decided maybe 165. Apparently, if I go to the edge of the BMI tables, I could go down 135 to 140. Is this smart? How low is too low? I sort of figure, without will power I will plateau. I also figure this thread will move in that direction. Letās assume, I can control my weight at any level. What is best? Will I have to give up my fasting routine because I canāt take in enough calories? I guess Iāll just go the edge of normal on the BMI chart and start finding a maintenance routine. Thoughts?
How much weight loss is too much
Iām not sure anyone can really answer that question for you. How do you feel at 190? 180? 170? 160? 150? 140? Iām not sure there is a right answer that anyone else could point you towards.
I happen to feel best on the upper part of the curve. As an adult, Iāve been all the way from the 140s to the 290s. The place that felt the best to me was around the 190s. Thatās still considered heavy for my height but since thatās where Iāve felt the best in the past, thatās my goal. If, when I get there, I feel like Iād feel better losing some more, I will. If I feel like Iām where I need to be, I wonāt.
Iām not convinced that underweight people are healthier. I remember of something I heard sometime back during an interview of numerous people over the age of 100, that the general theme of the people in that group was that they were not generally underweight and healthy. No, they werenāt way overweight, either. Having a reserve of at least some body fat seemed to be a good thing.
During my last EF, I hit 136.6. Iām 6 foot. So, Iām lean. This morning I was back to 140.0. I IF daily, but more out of convenience than anything else. At my heaviest, I was around 195. I felt like crap. Iām definitely most comfortable where I am now. Although, weight is not something Iām concerned with. Iām most concerned with how I feel. If I gained all the weight back and felt great, I wouldnāt care. I donāt think that would be the case though. For now, Iāll continue eating twice a day, perfect macros, nearly 2000 calories, until something happens where I no longer feel best at this weight.
Thanks, Brian Good input. Probably best to start maintenance right in the middle of the BMI normal range and adjust fast routine.
Probably at my weight to height ratio, but I donāt pay too much attention. When looking at charts, I still estimate Iām 18-20% body fat. Makes me wonder how some people say they are 5ā8ā, 230lbs, and only 25% body fat. But, when looking at pictures and ourselves in a mirror, body dismorphia could be playing a role in those estimates. Iād like to get a dexa scan, but canāt justify the cost for something that isnāt needed. Needs vs. wants.
your body fat percentage is relative to your lean body mass, which includes muscle and bone and connective tissuesā¦ some of us weigh more in this area than others. The āIm just big bonedā excuse. is mostly an excuse, but its still somewhat true. And of course, muscle mass does vary widely.
Sarah, funny you should mention ājust big bonedā. My mother use to tell her fat son (me), donāt worry about your weight you are just big boned. She was wrong. Thanks for your input!
If the science and experience behind Keto has taught us anything itās that weight doesnāt make us matabolically healthy or unhealthy. As long as you are healthy on the inside and not too heavy to strain joints etc. you should be OK.
How many people here are still obese but have reversed their major diseases? I would like to get down to 50lbs lighter than I am but I wonāt obsess about it as long as Iām healthy inside.
I think it is better to focus on body compostion or maybe body fat % instead of weight. Aim for a body fat goal and try to get there while gaining or at least without losing muscle or bone.
Funny, I am big boned. At 5ā3ā, I have a LBM of 115 pounds. At 25% body fat, I should weigh about 155 pounds that has me at 27 BMI. Still obese. I would have to get down to140 to get to the normal BMI range and that would put me about 17% bf. Very low for a female.
Get a DEXA scan done and you will know exactly where you stand and then use that as your guide.
this page has some useful info about body fat and also some pix that might give you a rough idea where you stand. i agree that body fat is a better indicator of healthy weight, than BMI, and for those of us who really have no idea what a healthy weight is, this chart can be useful
https://www.freedieting.com/body-fat-calculator
If obesity is the result of a problem, then obesity is a disease. And therefore inherently unhealthy. Whatās at issue isnāt body weight but body fat. Scientists now know that fat isnāt benign, itās an endocrine organ. And it has detrimental effects on health.
It seems to depend on the person and the nature of their fat, some people can carry a tremendous amount of body fat and have excellent health. In general fat under the skin, especially when the fat cells stay small is healthy, even when one has a lot.
I get what youāre saying but even this may be too black or white. There are lots of people with some or even lots of āexcessā body fat (working off the six-pack abs model that has only existed for a century or less) who are and remain metabolically/physiologically healthy. Body fat IS an organ but doesnāt have to be banished to be healthy. Fat deposition is a symptom not a cause so Iām not sure if it can be classed as the disease per se.
Just my 2c.
Iām still a very long way from having to figure out a goal weight. What Iāve kind of considered is that I want to have as much muscle as possible, and then a body fat percentage that seems reasonable. I donāt care about the BMI charts when some athletes with absolutely amazing bodies would be considered obese on those charts. Iām not chasing a number on the scale.
Thereās also the whole thing about Phinney weight, the weight at which itās fairly easy to maintain without huge amounts of effort. If I was trying to get my weight so low that Iād have to go to extremes, then Iād start worrying about it becoming psychologically unhealthy. I figure maybe my body will tell me when itās at a weight that it likes.
I remember once I was in school with a girl who looked like she could have been an elf. I was randomly looking at her hands and wrists and how tiny they were. My hands and wrists were absolutely gigantic in comparison. I definitely do not have petite bones.
Thinking 155 which should be at about 10% body fat if Iām looking at things right. Sounds healthy, possible, and sustainable. Should be able to still enjoy fasting. Great input folks!