How long have you been in Ketosis?

(Mike W.) #1

No, not how long have you been eating “Keto”. I mean actually been in measureable nutritional Ketosis? How important is it to you or are you more interested in just staying fat adapted? How worried are you about getting knocked out? I’m curious as to what all staying in Ketosis can cure. I’m personally going to try and see how staying in affects my anxiety this next month.

(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #2

I’ve been in ketosis since I started almost 5 weeks ago. I check a urine test strip every other day or so and stay under 20 carbs a day.

I don’t know the difference of being FAT ADAPTED and IN KETOSIS or making ketones. I thought this was the same thing. Am I wrong?

(Jessica) #3

After the initial “am I in ketosis or not?” phase, I quit testing. I’m not eating any more carbs than I was then (none intentionally) and I’m losing at the same rate so I don’t know why I wouldn’t be. I don’t plan to test the waters to see how much I can get away with or anything because there not much I miss.

(Frank) #4

When you get fat adapted your body is actually using the ketones that you’re peeing out now. You’ll prob see a dramatic drop in urine strip indicator.

(Diane) #5

On her website tuitnutrition.com, Amy Berger provides an excellent explanation of what it means to be producing ketones vs being fat adapted.

(Allie) #6

3.5 years now and I don’t worry about going in / out as I have the metabolic flexibility to allow it.

(Running from stupidity) #7

I generally don’t check at all, but a couple of days ago I was feeling like complete crap so I dug out the breathalyser and gave it a huff and blew 1.1, IIRC. I blow 1.2 at the end of long fasts, .8-.9 before I started fasting. Because, yeah, I’m not bothered.

How important is it to you or are you more interested in just staying fat adapted?

The latter is where it’s at for me.

#8

Fat adapted is my goal. When I first went low carb (4 or 5 years ago?) I stayed below 20gm total carbs for the most part for a good 6 months then slowly worked my way back up to 25gm net carbs which allows more veg. Some weekends if there is a lot of strenuous exercise I’ll eat up to 40 or 50 net so probably kicked out of ketosis for a brief spell but still well fat adapted as best I can tell & no issues with weird symptoms or cravings.

(Laurie) #9

I’ve been in ketosis for almost 4 months. For the first month or so I cheated fairly often, and I was occasionally not in ketosis on those days. But mostly I’ve been at 4.0 (moderate) on the pee sticks.

I’ve been getting less and less hungry as the weeks and months pass. I’m now at about 20 hours daily intermittent fast (eating window of 4 hours). So maybe that means I’m fat adapted.

By the way, I’ve never experienced keto flu, low carb flu, or Atkins flu.

I’m not worried about the keto numbers; I just find it interesting that I still score pretty high, as I think I “should not” be registering after all this time.

(Running from stupidity) #10

That’s because … it’s not any kind of flu!

(Troy) #11

Fat Adapted was an is my goal
No measuring
No cheat days
I’m on total carbs now
The only TRUE in -n - out I know —sells double double protein style burgers :grinning:

Actually, when someone even asks about Ketosis
I occasionally stumble🤣
I just refer them here :flushed:
#lazy

(Carl Keller) #12

Signs of fat adaptation:

  1. pee a lot
  2. not as hungry
  3. blood pressure returns to normal
  4. decrease carb cravings
  5. increased mental clarity
  6. consistent all day energy

Ketosis is teaching your body to use fats for fuel. Fat adapted means, in the absence of dietary fat, carbs and protein, your body taps into your body fat for fuel. This is why we don’t need to consume as much fat once we are adapted. Let your body spend the fuel on you body, not in your belly.

#13

THIS should be the goal for everybody! You gotta go down the dark road to get there but I believe having metabolic flexibility is the key. If I decide to eat carbs, than I eat them. No waking up 35 times at night covered in sweat feeling like I’m on fire, not hangover headaches the next day or two, no reminders of what keto flu was like. I just burn them off and switch right back seamlessly. I understand people being afraid of a carb relapse when they haven’t eating keto for long, but I feel gaining that flexibility helps us huge.

(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #14

The thing I am missing is the energy. I still feel my body telling me “it’s time for lunch” or “we’re so hungry” sometimes and even though I’m under 20 carbs a day I feel like my body still plays the low blood sugar game on me and makes me want to eat, which I do. I’m letting my body work it out and it sounds like I’ll know when I’m fat adapted and I agree, I’m not quite yet, but I think I’m getting there.

Thanks.

#15

I’ve been in an almost continuous state of ketosis for the past 18 months. I measure everyday, and try to keep my blood ketones above 2 mmol. I try to keep my GKI < 3. This is a deeper level than nutritional ketosis. There are days (usually a few times a month) when I eat a lot of carbs (150-300g) which kicks me out of ketosis. I have no side effects (other than water retention) and it takes 24-48 hours of fasting for my body to get back into ketosis.

(Empress of the Unexpected) #16

How many carbs do you eat to keep your ketones that high?

#17

I eat to my carb tolerance, which I’ve determined empirically. It has increased over time as my derangement has improved. It’s currently 50-75g, mostly vegetables. I have not experimented with rice, pasta, beans, or wheat to determine their effect. .

#18

i have no clue, but sure at most times I am producing keytones. Figured don’t eat bad stuff, and east good stuff and the body will move in and out of ketosis as it was designed. And in that process the body will find its way to where it is meant to be.
I know this attitude offends some but takes all kinds to make a community

(Laurie) #19

Thank you for the succinct explanation. Everything else I’ve read just confuses me!

(Carl Keller) #20

Same here. A few weeks ago, I literally Googled “Signs of adaptation” and that’s what I found. If I might add one more thing: if you can fast for 24 hours or more without losing energy and have no profound hunger, then that’s the clincher. You are fat adapted 100%.