Hell Just Froze Over

(Shromona Das) #1

My doctor called me couple of hours ago. Said I should give up dairy for good, at least for two months. What? What is life without butter? What is life without sticks of butter? And what is love but cream cheese? Unstoppable, all sacrificing, maddening love: cream cheese. I want to scream the name of my favourite brands out on the streets like Romeo. On top of that he banned ALL “sweet tasting things”. I said " oh that’s OK. I don’t eat sugar as you know. " “All sweet tasting things” he said. Stevia? Erythritol? “All sweet tasting things.”
Could someone kindly help with new recipes?

(Ethan) #2

Did the doctor provide a reason? Or is he or she simply against dairy now?

#3

Usually the recommendation to cut out dairy doesn’t mean avoiding butter unless you’re extremely sensitive to milk proteins (and in that case you can make clarified butter! It’s easy to make and is delicious).

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #4

Yeah… that would get push back from me. Like whys. Why all sweet tasting things? What test result have I flunked or what study have you read? Same on the dairy.

As fake Kenny Rogers once said, “I was raised on the dairy!”

(Sarah ) #5

id want to know the reasoning behind this, and the trustworthiness of the source

(Doug) #6

Butter has practically no lactose at all, separating it from many other “dairy” products. Whew - I can’t even think about giving up cheese, let alone butter.

(Jessica) #7

Sometimes the issue is casein in which case butter is problematic. But ghee is usually ok.

(Doug) #8

Jessica, I’ve never seen anything that says butter has more than traces of casein…?

(Jessica) #9

Hmmm…my experience is anecdotal (cooking for a friend with a casein allergy. He can’t have butter due to the allergy, but can usually have ghee). Perhaps that’s not the norm.

#10

Get a second opinion from a different doctor. They don’t know everything and sometimes they give the wrong advice.

(Ethan) #11

It doesn’t sound like a first opinion was even given!

(Shromona Das) #12

I’ve been writing extensively on how my body is reacting to ghee recently. I don’t have any problems as such with eating butter or cheese. But I’m not being able to digest ghee at all. Even 100% whey protein is causing immense bloating and so is erythritol. It was suggested by some friends here (from this forum) as well (that I should try not consuming erythritol if it’s causing irritation).

My doctor has been our family physician for ages and knows my case history intimately. He doesn’t want me to give these up for a lifetime. He just wants to see if my body is reacting equally if I give up dairy for a while. He thinks that I might have been consuming excessive amount of dairy recently (which isn’t untrue. I ate 200gms of paneer at a go, not to mention 50s of butter in one meal). I’m having trouble controlling my cravings too.

I had a bowl of lemon card today (not knowing any other uncomplicated dairy free dessert) and my stomach is in a warzone. So I know that I’m reacting to it. Maybe I’ll continue having stevia. I don’t use any sweetener in my coffee/tea so I end up craving desserts.

Could someone kindly tell me if I can lose weight (it’s particularly tough because I have become significantly thin already) by eating full day? I do OMAD. When would I, ideally, have my last meal? Sometimes I’m terriblly hungry towards my bedtime and it becomes impossible to tolerate.

(Shayne) #13

I can’t have butter, either. It gives me painful palpitations. Haven’t tried ghee yet.

(Shromona Das) #14

Sadly, in this small Indian town, I don’t get beef, pork, avocados, lard or any other great fat sources except for butter and coconut oil. I’ll get some olive oil from Amazon. What do you guys recommend? Pomace or Virgin?

(3c6f21097d06511a9e23) #15

I’m on OMAD most of the time. I find as soon as I eat I have to really control myself. I usually have a starter of say my homemade flaxseed& Hemp heart seed bread with some brie cheese warmed in microwave. Then I make my salad or whatever Im having which usually takes me 1/2 hr or so. Almond milk shake for dessert at the moment,.
I time all this for about 6pm, so Im finished by 7pm latest. Sometimes I still feel a bit hungry even after the 1800 - 2000 calorie meal, but within 1/2 hr that usually subsides. No real problems then till next day at 5 ish if I’ve had enough fat.
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#16

Even those ‘traces’ in butter can affect those of us who have milk protein allergies. Ghee is OK however.

(CharleyD) #17

Ideally around sunset within a standard circadian rhythm. If I stay up later than usual and get a hunger pang I push salt and water and that’ll usually inhibit the pang.

(Shromona Das) #18

Thanks so much… Yes, once I start eating (OMAD) it snowballs, you know? It’s as if I’ve unleashed a dragon I shouldn’t have had. But you can’t put the dragon inside the dungeon back and say “oooops my bad”.

I eat lunch. But however I feel terribly hungry by 11.30 in the morning, so I usually have one tiny piece of chicken, or a bullet proof coffee. Then I eat around 2-2.30ish (it takes me around an hour to prepare my meal. So I munch on things I’m making on the go) and kind of don’t eat afterwards.

But I’ve recently feeling tired and stressed out and hungry so last night, way past sun down, I had a bowl of chicken broth with garlic and pink Himalayan salt.

But I guess I should have stuck to salt and water.

(Tracey) #19

Wow, where on earth do you live…I mean to say, there is country and there is country…Sounds like you are in the 2nd one with no butcher or grocery store…You poor thing…

(Shromona Das) #20

Yupe I know… Besides, people have massive religious sentiments here (that is to say half of them would not enter shops where they sell beef or pork) so yes, the big foodie that I am, I often travel to the nearest city to have pork and bacon. :frowning: