Have you ever saved anyone?

('Jackie P') #1

We talk a lot about people who we would love to save but who are resistant to our efforts!
I have one heartwarming success story to share.
I met a work colleague by chance with his wife. I used to work with her before she left to raise her family. She was a slim, pretty girl, and my colleague (I will call Tom) told me, some years ago, how she got up and put on her size 8 jeans 2 days after having her first child!
I was shocked to see her, some 13 years later, looking so unwell. Her skin was like putty, she looked bloated and obviously unwell.
When I saw Tom at work he explained, she had a benign tumour on her pancreas and had been so unwell. She had been put on a low fat (!) diet and was struggling.
I found an article online about keto and pancreatic cancer. I told him to read it and see if it made sense. When I went back to the ward I could see he had had a lightbulb moment! His eyes were shining and he had obviously done some more reading. ā€œHow would it make senseā€ I asked him ā€œto keep making the diseased pancreas work by giving it carbohydrates when keeping carbs low would obviously rest itā€?
Two weeks later he saw me at work and told me how well his wife was doing. From the first day, he said, she had improved! A few months later he took me aside to say that her periods had restarted and her depression had lifted. ā€œI have my wife backā€ he told me!
Some more months later he told me that her check up had shown the tumour had shrunk by more than half. His wife sent me a card and a gift

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Just recently I have heard that she has been discharged, except for yearly check ups! Her tumour has almost disappeared!
Now Tom has lost 2 stone and feels much better himself!
:blush::blush::blush:

(Susan) #2

Wow, that is fabulous! What a heart-warming story, you saved two people in the long term; his wife, obviously, but also the hubby as Keto will make him healthier and live longer as well.

('Jackie P') #3

It is a lovely story, except for the one thing. How the hell could a cancer Dr, specialising in pancreatic cancer, not see the obvious staring him in the facešŸ˜ŸI despair!

(Susan) #4

Yes, you are quite right, that is very horrible. I agree with you, I was only referring to your saving them both. It is very upsetting and discouraging to me that the medical community in general is not accepting Ketoā€¦

(Murphy Kismet) #5

THIS!! :heart::heart::heart:

('Jackie P') #6

Yes I know, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy :blush:

(Jane) #7

:heart::heart::heart:

Thanks for sharing this - made my day!

(Full Metal KETO AF) #8

I have converted 4 people by example, who knows what they were headed for? But it has made a positive impact on them all, Mark was headed towards diabetes at 70 and had horrible sugar cravings and deranged eating habits like being hungry an hour after a meal craving ice cream. Heā€™s lost considerable weight. My son is showing positive cognitive changes and this will surely be a huge improvement in his enjoyment of life in the future. Your story is really great Jacqueline. :cowboy_hat_face:

(hottie turned hag) #9

Absolutely awesome story, @CrackerJax :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

('Jackie P') #10

:slightly_smiling_face:Thank you guys.

(Carl Keller) #11

Best to not rub it in his face. He could have you charged with inappropriately reversing pancreatic cancer much like Gary Fettke was similarly charged with inappropriately reversing a patientā€™s T2D. :rofl:

(Susan) #12

That is really awful, wow. That is very sad, actually.

(Carl Keller) #13

The good news is Gary Fettke was eventually exonerated:

(Susan) #14

Oh okay that is good, but really quite terrible that it happened in the first place.

('Jackie P') #15

Yes, I have read the story of Gary Fettke, very powerful, as are his presentations! And the support of his wife.
I would be more likely to be charged with ripping a drs head offšŸ˜”

('Jackie P') #16

Yes, as in the case of Tim Noakes, who suffered a similar fate in South Africa.
But in the end, these cases raise the profile of the science behind the ketogenic WOE, bring clued up physicians together all over the world, and make the governments look very silly! :slightly_smiling_face:

(hottie turned hag) #17

OMFG. In Aus no less. Iā€™d expect that here in USA. Wow I am kinda speechless though not surprised as I work in medicine. Docs MUST comply with standards of care protocols and most do for fear of repercussion. Here the sole practitioner who isnā€™t employed by a hospital system/corporation is rare.

What they do themselves/for relatives is often quite different to what they recommend for pts, I can promise you this.

In my personal, not professional experience, with one of my kids who developed Crohnā€™s at age 10, her pedi GI (head of pedi GI at the local hosp) had to finagle/falsify things to get her tx we both agreed sheā€™d benefit from, but that was not standard. He wouldnā€™t have done this for a random pt (he knew me as we had pts in common though were not direct colleagues, I donā€™t do clinical work) Fair? No. It happens all the time though.

('Jackie P') #18

You would find the trial of Tim Noakes very interesting too. Nina Teicholz and Zoe Harcombe were among those speaking in his defence.

(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #19

It was very hard on Dr. Fettke and Prof. Noakes, but I believe they consider the eventual outcomes worth the sufferingā€”as long as no one else has to go through what they went through. This was a real check to the influence of the Seventh-Day Adventist church in Australia, and to the supporters of the vegan agenda world-wide. But there is still much work to be done.

The dismissal of the appeal against the orignal exoneration of Prof. Noakes was very gratifying, although no more than one expects from an impartial judiciary. But I was amazed that the Australian authorities not only reversed the judgement against Dr. Fettke, but actually formally apologised to him. That is a sign that there was something seriously wrong behind the scenes and indicates that someone in government felt the need to stave off a major lawsuit. Not that Gary and Belinda would have taken things that far, but the authorities never apologise. I take it to mean that undue influence procured the initial judgement against him, and the consequences would have been majorly dire, had word ever gotten out. I suppose weā€™ll never know, but at least someone in government had a major rush of sense to the head. :bacon::bacon:

('Jackie P') #20

Well put!