Had too many carbs, body revolted

(Sue ) #1

So last night was my son’s birthday and we went with extended family to an uber-fancy restaurant. I had fully intended on a steak and veggies but got a bit caught up in the celebration and had a burger with bun, some fries and a decadent chocolate martini. :grimacing:

I felt ok at the time, but at 2am I got sick - really sick - and lost my entire dinner (and then some!). I was shaking and sweating, it was miserable.

Waited til 10am, had bacon and eggs and felt much better. Now I feel great.

Just an observation, really. I was surprised at how my body just flat out rejected that onslaught of carbs. Lesson learned and I was actually very happy to KCKO today!

(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #2

I’ve had a few times like that, but other times nothing happened. Do you think the alcohol in the martini made it worse? Hope you enjoyed your get together and glad you’re feeling better.

(Alec) #3

I think most people have a blow out at some point. I know that I had one 2 months ago: I was in an Airbnb in the Big City, ordered in a delivered favourite veal meal from a local Italian, but forgot to ask for no chips. It arrived with the chips, and I ate the veal and veg, and left the chips on a plate in the kitchen. After eating the veal I was still hungry, oops, and suddenly the chips were gone… they were delicious! I did feel a bit annoyed I had given in to the obvious temptation.

Next day I was woolly headed but ok, but not proud of myself. I kept calm and ketoed on.

Lessons learnt:

  1. One blow out really does not matter that much. If it becomes a habit, it really does matter.
  2. I cannot trust myself with delicious carby foods approximately 3 metres away from where I am sitting :joy::flushed:
  3. I must always have keto food available if I am still hungry after a meal. This doesn’t happen often, but if it does, the only option readily available cannot be carbs.

Keto while travelling can be more difficult, but I am learning… home is much easier.

(Sue ) #4

Peta, I don’t think the alcohol helped, plus it was full of sugar too!

Alec, I totally agree. I thought about what I would eat well in advance and stressed myself out over it. Then I decided that it was a very rare outing for my family and a special occasion at a special restaurant, so the only regret I have is overdoing it with too much all at once which clearly was too much for my body. Next time I have extra carbage I will not be so overzealous.

It’s definitely easier at home where I am so much more in control. Luckily we very rarely go out to eat. I think restaurants are particularly challenging, for me anyway.

(Marianne) #5

I think it’s great that you were able to get right back on the horse the next day.

(Alec) #6

Sue
I think this is important. We should not be slaves to our WOE choice. The ultimate prize in eating keto is metabolic flexibility ie we can effectively burn fat or carbs, whatever is available.

Stressing about what to eat at a fancy restaurant when it is a rare treat is just counterproductive. I say just eat what you want, then get back on the wagon the next day.

(Sue ) #7

I felt that way, too, I didn’t want to sit there and feel sad that I wasn’t truly sharing this experience with my family. I want to allow myself grace for these one-off occasions, and I know I will get right back to keto the next day because it’s how I believe we should all eat.

(Jill F.) #8

I have not jumped that far in on carbs but I have had a little more than usual like some nuggets or bowl of pistachios and I immediately felt tired and had a belly ache. I experienced keto flu pretty bad in the 1st week so I am scared to eat bad ever again!

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #9

I wish it were as simple as a vom and get back on for me. I feel all my inflammation resurgent… reflux, left hand numbness, right hip arthritis, shoulder pain. Memory takes a hit, too. Have to be careful in indulgence or make the trade of discomfort.

(Sue ) #10

Yep, we all need to decide on an individual basis what price we’re willing to pay for indulging, once we figure out how it affects us. I definitely will think twice from now on when faced with temptation. Hoping that feeling of temptation will get a bit less though as time goes on.

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #11

The temptation of certain things has certainly faded. The desire for other things, less so. But the appreciation of some of those things has faded as well. I still get “thirsty” for artisanal bread, and it still satisfies. But donuts hold no desire for me, whereas I used to feel real disappointment if my favorite donut truck was not there in the morning, and be off my game for the rest of the day. Now, every now and again, I think I will have one if he’s there, and just have that cheat… and then he’s there, and then it doesn’t appeal at all.

Weird how that goes, isn’t it?

(Empress of the Unexpected) #12

Stomach flu is going around. That is most likely what you had.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #13

A nurse practitioner friend of mine is convinced that, since influenza is a respiratory virus, what we call “stomach flu” is almost certainly food poisoning. I’m not sure I want to believe her, but she does have a point, I’m afraid.

(Empress of the Unexpected) #14

https://familydoctor.org/condition/stomach-virus-gastroenteritis/

Not necessarily. My point is that a hamburger bun and fries can in no way induce vomiting. You might feel stuffed and bloated, but that’s about it.

(Empress of the Unexpected) #15

Our bodies can burn carbs or fat.

(Sue ) #16

I’ve no “scientific proof” that indulging in high carb fare caused me to become ill, but I have not vomited or gotten a stomach bug in years, literally. No one in my family is ill. And I was fine after that one episode and ate two full meals yesterday. Kind of a coincidence.

Doesn’t really matter though. I’m going to be more cautious about any high-carb adventures going forward either way. :woman_shrugging:

(Jane- Old Inky Crone) #17

Getting sick like that really takes the joy out of eating carbs, doesn’t it?
KCKO!

(Marianne) #18

I had to laugh about this, especially since I just read the thread about “meat roulette” yesterday. :laughing:

(Keto butts drive me nuts) #19

I agree with the food poisoning view. Wouldn’t be the first time a high class joint served up some ripe affair. Get back on that wagon and ride!!!

#20

Food poisoning is way worse than a stomach flu, if you ask me. And even though stomach flu isn’t a respiratory flu, it is caused by a virus. Or either noro or rhoto, and they are both awfully resilient. They are not destroyed by alcohol or trying to dry them out. Only bleach kills those viruses. They’re also extremely contagious, and even ingesting only a few viruses is enough to have a nasty infection.

Combining carbs and alcohol has never been a good idea, though, and that’s more likely to be the culprit in this case. When on keto, have bacon or nuts with alcohol, not carbs. Choose one poison at a time, not both together. The few carbs in a dry wine are ok though.