Green Vegetable Juice - your experiences

health
juicing
(Adam L) #1

Does anyone have any experience with taking green vegetable juice for health? From what I’ve read, seen, done & watched most juicing includes some portion of fruit to make it more palatable, as seen in the documentary fat, sick & nearly dead. However I’m not particularly interested in what goes on when people drink that sugar water - been there done that. Has anyone done hardcore juicing with green low carb veges only?

I’m strict zero carb (ZC) at present, meat, eggs, fish, salt, water only and loving it but I’m open minded to taking this type of juice in the future either as a one drink per day or as a juice fast. I know from doing ZC in Jan 2017 that it puts me into a great metabolic state with best ever blood sugar readings and that could be an ideal base from which to experiment with green juice.

@ketohealthclub I’ve read you have some experience in this area, could you please comment? @richard I’d really appreciate any feedback you might have about this.

(ketohealthclub) #2

I used to be a juicer. Richard can explain better why juicing can help people get off their diabetes meds, but it has to do with being a low-insulin diet (like keto) except it seems juicing and raw vegan regimens are the opposite of keto - high in natural carbs but extremely low in fat. I can’t juice and do keto- too many carbs for me.

#3

I did it many years ago. For me it was a disaster. Increased inflammation, sore joints, induced hunger. And I gained weight. And I did the green stuff…not the fruity stuff. When I started low carb, I realized I was over carbing with the green drinks.

(Adam L) #4

Thanks @ketohealthclub I think you’re saying that when this works in some people it’s via the same mechanism that the all potato or all rice diet works which I’ve heard & read Richard explain.

Thanks @Fiorella that doesn’t sound good at all, I’ve been aware for years that drinking carrot or beetroot juice can be disastrous especially for diabetics so I suppose I shouldn’t be so surprised that green juice can be problematic for some people. Stripping all the fibre out delivers a concentrated potion, maybe that’s why all these bullet type blenders are all the rage now as they retain the fibre to some degree - though the way they describe their whiz bang nutrient extraction blade systems it’s amazing much fibre even survives!

I’m in no rush to try this, barely been 8 months since I found lchf & 3 months keto, it’s going well so I’ll keep rolling with it. My wife, who is very resistant to the HF part of LCHF is about to get stuck into green juices so I’ll get to see some results from that. I hope it helps, a few years ago I outweighed her by a bit, now she outweighs me by around 60lbs. I’ll KCKO & maybe she’ll join me one day.

#5

When I drank the green juice, I’d make it in a blender, not a juicer, to keep the fibre. But, the juicing process breaks up the fibre…so not sure that’s good anyway.

(Richard Morris) #6

Yeah it’s not helpful. @erdoke has charts that show the insulin response to the same food food that has been vitamized is significantly higher. I believe predigesting food so it’s quicker to transit your gut leads to metabolic dysfunction in much the same way as living in a wheel chair leads to atrophy in your leg muscles.

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(Meeping up the Science!) #7

That’s part of why whey spikes insulin so much - it’s more digestible, which is why hydrolyzed whey is even worse than isolate (something I learned from @erdoke as well)

(Gabor Erdosi) #8

Yes, it’s all about absorption: rate and location.

(Clare) #9

I got really into juicing about 3 years ago and I’m fairly sure that’s what precipitated the weight gain. I kicked it into touch when I went keto and I’ve magically not died from kale and apple juice deficiency.

(Jessica) #10

Like @Fiorella I mixed and kept the fiber. In the beginning of keto, seeing a lot of Dr. Berg’s videos, I thought I had to have eat aalllll the greens. No wonder it took me so long to adapt.

But hell no, this is absolutely nothing I wanted to keep doing for the rest of my life.

I think in the end it’s not only about what is healthiest (it’s another question if and how vegetables contribute to that, but that’s not my point). It’s about healthy choices that are sustainable = enjoyable.

(Amy Arnold) #12

Most of the time I tried leafy vegetables juice. My favorite is carrot juice.