Drinking Ketones

(Behi) #1

Hi all,
I am hearing that drinking ketons can significantly help the weight loss process. Is this true? If yes, can you recommend any brand? Thank you.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #2

No, the point is to eat in such a way as to encourage your body to produce ketones, because doing so will lower your insulin level and allow the excess fat stored in your adipose tissue to be released to be metabolized. A low-carbohydrate diet, especially when carbohydrate intake is kept below 20 g/day, lowers insulin to a level that permits the adipose tissue to release stored fat, the liver to make ketone bodies out of the fat, and eventually will allow your muscles to convert to metabolizing ketone bodies and fatty acids in place of glucose. Ketone supplements do not provide these benefits.

(Running from stupidity) #3

This

(John) #4

There is at least some science that says consuming ketone esters reduces hunger.

The study was done on people of normal weight. I would assume this just mimics the results of what is obtained via a ketogenic diet - i.e., the presence of BHB reduces appetite.

#5

Well they are an energy source so that makes sense but you might as well use your own.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #6

Alas, reducing hunger does not also reduce serum insulin, and therefore does not lead to metabolic health and the shedding of excess stored fat.

(John) #7

Here is a more detailed article, which concludes that there is no real benefit for weight loss from consuming exogenous ketones. It also references that one study I linked.

(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #8

First of all, there’s a difference between nutritional ketosis or ketogenesis (the creation of ketone bodies in the liver by following the keto diet) and ketonaemia (the presence of ketone bodies in the blood). Taking EK promotes ketonaemia, not nutritional ketosis.

So when people say “drink this stuff and you’ll be in ketosis”, what they really say is that after you drink EK and measure your blood ketone level after an hour or so, you will see the presence of ketones. However, it doesn’t guarantee that you are in nutritional ketosis and stay there.

It’s a total gimmick and does not at all aid in becoming fat adapted

So no, I don’t drink ketones ,when I can make my own!

#9

The following article makes interesting reading.

They conclude that drinking ketones does reduce blood glucose and “increase adipose tissue lipolysis”. I don’t advocate supplementing directly with ketones but I’m keeping an open mind. It could be useful for some people (older people for example or people with mental/brain illnesses) who may find it difficult to make dietary changes. Or it could be useful if someone were to go through a time of seasonal high carb eating such Christmas.

#10

This article seems to be by some of the same authors as the article above and it seems some of the authors have a commercial interest in Ketone Drink products. Still its interesting that research is being done.

(bulkbiker) #11

@richard had an interesting exchange on facebook on the subject on Dec 11… well worth checking out his page…

https://www.facebook.com/Khiron/posts/10155557268572134?xts[0]=68.ARBKNcN7F7K5Vn3ibD4jzHvGmy98soCEeNztX8A7jcSfEnBOHxtorq1yN6HONrH5FQ1hLkfp_JRMFTOU8-WCwJ1F9Se0zmxYNuDU5P6G19WyvuQ8Qkytk6eYMcX0sp4FgDiSy-plCC1K4KWQlW89tEoY1ZOiZz1nTH-n-OhNMuGs3blmsLSaUwFaYoVmouJBNiSgwTLKmdSAcnmAKg&tn=-R

Not sure if that will work…

(Sheri Knauer) #12

They have their place but in my opinion, not in a regular ketogenic diet. They just make expensive pee. Eat real, whole food, stay the keto course, and your body will heal and release stored body fat as it seems fit.

(Eric - The patient needs to be patient!) #13

+1,000

(Behi) #14

Thank you so very much for all the information.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #15

And ketonuria, most likely. #EXPENSIVEURINE indeed.

(Running from stupidity) #16

“I [spoiler]piss[/spoiler] money, you know.”

(Doug) #17

With some very rare exceptions, I think this is the deal. Hey - short of physical compulsion otherwise, we all make our own choices, and to each their own. If ketones didn’t cost so much to buy, I’d be of a somewhat different mind, but HOLY CROW - ain’t no way they’re really worth it for almost all of us.

(Running from stupidity) #18

You seen the price of the ketone esters??? Makes the standard exogenous ketones look like pocket change, which is a fair effort.

(Doug) #19

:smile: No, man, I was just thinking of the exogenous ketones… ****…

I guess to some extent we all want the “Magic Pill,” and marketers are always looking to get rich off of that.

(Running from stupidity) #20

So, so true.