Doing well with 100 NCP diet

#18

I have no problems tracking net carbs personally. MyNetDiary does it all for me and my NC+P total is sent to my Apple Watch real time. It’s just one number I need to look at . I just usually select my recipe from MyNetDiary… make the single entry and look at my Apple Watch NCP value. Once it gets near 100 I am very careful not to exceed say 107 for the day.

I would go by just how I feel and not count macronutrients but I tried that and it doesn’t work. I am so heavily insulin resistant and a raging diabetic, things get out of hand quickly. If I track it closely, no hunger and good blood glucose control as well as weight loss. So I can’t just go by the typical advice given by atkins, moore & phinney/volek to eat to satiety. Have to count it.

#19

Here is a photo of my Apple Watch I just took. Right now I am using an app/complication someone else coded, and it just shows Protein grams as well as Net Carb grams individually, along with my last blood sugar test (I check at least three times per day).

I am going to have to code an app/complication myself for iPhone/Watch in Swift which will sum the NC and Protein and show it as one value, but currently I quickly have to add it in my head to see where I am for the day.

Once I code that, I’ll add other things. Basically I can get 6 pieces of info on those 3 lines using 2 columns instead of one. I’ll be including estimated A1C (using last 6 weeks of data in Apple Health database). Then I’ll have room for three more bits of useful info on the watch once I figure out what I want… perhaps last body weight measurement (I weigh every day after getting up after peeing before I eat or drink anything).

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I’d like the first line on the watch to read, e.g.:
NCP: 94 (18/76)

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#25

Fasting BG: 77 mg/dL – down from 139-160 mg/dL over 12 days ago
Fasting BHB (Blood Ketones): 1.4 mmol/L
Fasting Weight: 363.3 lbs – down 2.0 pound since yesterday – down 10.6 lbs in past 9 days.
Second day off insulin – was taking over 80 units per day 45 days or so ago.

I’m ecstatic. This is the best day I have had so far in the past 3 years since my journey to control Type 2 Diabetes. Best week I have had hands down. Also I’ve never eaten less than 110g Net Carbs + Protein per day before and I’m doing that every day now for past 9 days. Going to continue with this! I’ve been morbidly obese all my life… highest weight was like 455 lbs.

(The amazing autoimmune 🦄) #26

Happy for you that you found something that works for you. Isn’t it a great relief to feel like finally something that will work.

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#30

Maybe you guys can start your own thread to discuss the fine details of Phinney etc? This thread is about how limiting both carbs and protein is helping me out :slight_smile:

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #31

You’d be very unpleasant to sit next to on a broccoli fast.

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #32

Congrats. It’s now how I would do it, but n=1, and I am not you.

#35

I am eating ketogenic diet. About 20g net carbs per day and moderate protein at about 85g per day. What would you do differently?

(Carl Keller) #36

No worries. We all have a bad day here and there. :slight_smile:

In this forum, you never know where a thread will end up. Just think of the topic as springboard for other ideas and thoughts. I’ve learned and laughed quite a bit when the replies stray from the intended course. :slight_smile:

On that note:

You’ve made me realize another NSV. My greenhouse gas emissions have dropped significantly since going LCHF. Keto is not just friendly to those nearest to me, it’s Earth friendly too. :slight_smile:

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #37

I would not pick an arbitrary limit to non-fat macronutrients.
I might pick an arbitrary limit to non-protein calories.

But as I said, you are not me, I am not you, and if it is working for you, that is only good.

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #38

Not all farts, apparently.


Your fart may have 0% methane, and as little as 10% carbon dioxide.

Or as much as 10 and 30.
Given the protein I consume, I would guess mine have a solid amount of nitrogen.

I think we should get one of Ben Bikman’s grad students on this issue at once… greenhouse gas emissions of SAD vs high protein keto vs low protein keto.

#39

I guess I am a bit grouchy today.

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(less is more, more or less) #40

@Jennifer72 You didn’t strike me as grouchy in the least, at least in the temperament reflected in your writing. I thought your request was not only reasonable but a solid suggestion. So much so that I split that tangent off to it’s own thread.

Enjoy your convo!

(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #41

LOLZ! A win for everyone, then! :+1:

(mole person) #42

You have done exactly what is most recommended. Find out what works for you.

Trust me, you are by no means alone in finding that it is both easy to overdo protein and that doing so can hinder fat losses. And since there is no benefit to consuming protein beyond the needs of you body, I see no advantage to it. I eat about 45-80 grams myself most days and I generally feel my best the next day when I’m closer to the lower end. Strangely, I also think higher protein makes me hungrier in the following 24 hrs.

#43

Thanks for all the kind replies. I’ll keep with it and continue to report anything I find. I am thinking since I am so very insulin resistant (and a raging diabetic – my blood glucose used to often be over 300 mg/dL), I might have pretty tight thresholds.

(less is more, more or less) #44

Please do. Ironically, in the thread that split off, we’re discussing that as many as 20% of the population do not need to stay below 50 grams of carbs. Having your experience here helps all who come to visit these forums.

(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #45

I find this fascinating, because there are also people on these forums who report exactly the opposite. This is obviously an area where people vary quite a bit. I guess we should be careful how to phrase recommendations to newcomers.

(I wonder if we could configure the system to automatically add “YMMV” to every post, lol Or better yet, “YMIGTV”—your mileage is guaranteed to vary!)